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re: Is war with Russia inevitable at this point?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:53 am to ugasickem
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:53 am to ugasickem
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I wish we'd just mind our own damn business.
Hey remember when the whole world said this in the 1930s? How did that work out again?
(Not saying I want war, but it needs to be considered)
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:54 am to Napoleon
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Ukraine is WEak!
The Ukraine doesn't have any spots in risk, that always bothered me.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:54 am to Napoleon
Your understanding of the world, America especially, is miss guided.
Read a little bit and stop watching media outlets.
Read a little bit and stop watching media outlets.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:55 am to Dire Wolf
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Ukraine is WEak!
You say Ukraine weak?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:55 am to biglego
There will be no war for now since Obama has made it clear repeatedly that he's willing to do anything in order to have "peace in our time". But like has already been said, history repeats itself. Putin, like Hitler, is emboldened by what he sees as weakness on the part of the West. If he has further territorial aspirations (such as the Baltic states for example) he will continue to push us further and further into a corner until war is our only remaining option.
Bottom line is that had Obama not made the US look feckless and weak on the world stage, none of this would be happening.
Bottom line is that had Obama not made the US look feckless and weak on the world stage, none of this would be happening.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 9:57 am
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:57 am to okietiger
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Hey remember when the whole world said this in the 1930s? How did that work out again?
That's ridiculous.
1. No one has bombed our country and taken out half the naval fleet.
2. There's no serious problem with a depression (other than welfare state)
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:58 am to Child of the Missip
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Your understanding of the world, America especially, is miss guided.
Read a little bit and stop watching media outlets.
what a prick you are. I'm just asking a topic of discussion. Did I say I want war with Russia? No
What I am saying is that an ally of ours has had an invasion followed by an annexation by Russia.
What do we do at this point?
It reminds me of how Hitler took the Sudetenland and claimed it was liberating it's people there. I mean exactly what Putin is saying.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:58 am to Darth_Vader
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There will be no war for now since Obama has made it clear repeatedly that he's willing to do anything in order to have "peace in our time". But like has already been said, history repeats itself. Putin, like Hitler, is emboldened by what he sees as weakness on the part of the West. If he has further territorial aspirations (such as the Baltic states for example) he will continue to push us further and further into a corner until war is our only remaining option.
Bottom line is that had Obama not made the US look feckless and weak on the world stage, none of this would be happening.
Putin wants to restore the USSR in my opinion.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:02 am to Napoleon
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Putin wants to restore the USSR in my opinion.
Didn't he make this clear in one of his speeches? I thought I remember him saying something to the fact of bringing Russia back to power.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:03 am to Napoleon
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It reminds me of how Hitler took the Sudetenland and claimed it was liberating it's people there. I mean exactly what Putin is saying.
On the surface, sure. But honestly, there's no one in the world that would do what hurler did again. There are too many organizations, allies, MONEY, and trade lines between too many countries for something like that to happen again.
There's nothing Russia would gain by starting something of that magnitude and Putin doesn't come off as someone that wants to take over Europe.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:04 am to Prominentwon
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1. No one has bombed our country and taken out half the naval fleet.
Only thing that actually pushed us into war. Plus this happened at the very end of 1941. Hitler had been slowly taking power in Europe throughout the mid to late 30s.
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2. There's no serious problem with a depression (other than welfare state)
Don't know how this is relevant. I know that the war production brought millions of people jobs who needed them in the early 40s. But are you saying that we couldn't enter a large scale war now because people don't need the production jobs?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:04 am to Napoleon
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Putin wants to restore the USSR in my opinion.
I believe this may be the case. If he tries, there will be war, period.
The thing that makes this situation dangerous, is the weakness shown by Obama is giving Outin the idea that making such a move to restore the former Soviet Union is a plausible option with a good chance at what he considers success.
This situation should be a lesson to everyone. The best way to ensure peace is not to try and appease everyone and makes them like you. Rather the best way to ensure peace is to make it clear to the world that war with you cannot end well for whoever is dumb enough to try it.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:04 am to Prominentwon
I don't think he wants to take over Europe, just make the world recognize/fear Russia again.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:05 am to Prominentwon
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MONEY
The real reason a full scale war won't happen
And we both still have a ton of nukes
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:07 am to Placebeaux
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Why should we fight and die for the interest of the bankers?
ask a civil war veteran that same question
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:07 am to Napoleon
Nope.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:07 am to Napoleon
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Is war with Russia inevitable at this point?
We're not going to war with Russia over Crimea or Ukraine.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:08 am to Cosmo
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Cosmo
RC from True Detective?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:08 am to Napoleon
Nope
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:11 am to Cosmo
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