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Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:47 am to Indfanfromcol
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There are few stadiums/parks in any sport that shouldn't be rebuilt or torn down. The only 2 nfl stadiums in that list are Lambeau and Soldier Field IMO.
No love for Arrowhead?
And just because Atlanta builds shitty stadiums that have to be rebuilt every 20 years, doesn't mean every other city has to.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:55 am to chillygentilly
I like Arrowhead stadium a lot, but I personally do not consider it on the same level as Lambeau or Soldier Field when talking about being historic.
Don't be mad that Benson can afford to put in a new stadium like Blank can.
Really, at first I was pissed about getting rid of the Georgia Dome. However, it isn't my money. But I guess why renovate and pour more money into an older dome when you have the money to build a brand new one.
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And just because Atlanta builds shitty stadiums that have to be rebuilt every 20 years, doesn't mean every other city has to.
Don't be mad that Benson can afford to put in a new stadium like Blank can.
Really, at first I was pissed about getting rid of the Georgia Dome. However, it isn't my money. But I guess why renovate and pour more money into an older dome when you have the money to build a brand new one.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:58 am to Indfanfromcol
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28. Bill Bidwill (Arizona Cardinals) – It would be difficult to find a pro sports franchise that has enjoyed less success than the Cardinals. A Super Bowl trip in 2008 was a lone bright spot for a team in the midst of a 67-year championship drought.
28 is too high. He should be dead last.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 10:59 am to Indfanfromcol
Thanks a lot, Steve Ross.
Sell the team you damn clown.
Sell the team you damn clown.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:00 am to Nashty
quote:He got a new stadium
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28. Bill Bidwill (Arizona Cardinals) – It would be difficult to find a pro sports franchise that has enjoyed less success than the Cardinals. A Super Bowl trip in 2008 was a lone bright spot for a team in the midst of a 67-year championship drought.
28 is too high. He should be dead last
that makes him a good owner
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:01 am to Party At LSU
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Thanks a lot, Steve Ross.
Just please not to London.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:02 am to Kafka
So someone ask how a stadium is relevant to the owner, I answer, which equals me saying the only important factor is the stadium?
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:02 am to Kafka
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He got a new stadium
that makes him a good owner
Eh, from strictly the business standpoint, it's a step in the right direction. For player and football related decisions...I can't say he's been anything more than an awful owner.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:05 am to Indfanfromcol
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So someone ask how a stadium is relevant to the owner, I answer, which equals me saying the only important factor is the stadium?
No, it's the way that you insinuated that Benson was a lesser owner because he didn't have a new stadium, which is asinine when you consider the history and competitive advantage (both on-field and in securing SB bids) of the Dome.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:08 am to chillygentilly
Although to be fair, we we're sharing a sub-par stadium with a college team on their campus...so we really were in need of a new stadium. I still don't think that alone makes him a good owner.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:13 am to Indfanfromcol
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Just one thing to put into consideration, only 1 of those owners still has their team playing in a stadium that is 20+ years old.
Please tell me where in NO you could drop a 60 acre plot for a new stadium. Nola isnt Atlanta or Dallas.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:18 am to chillygentilly
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No, it's the way that you insinuated that Benson was a lesser owner because he didn't have a new stadium,
I mentioned the renovations recently done to the Mercedes Benz Superdome. But they were overdue renovations.
As much as a competitive advantage the dome gives the Saints, that is more about the fans than the dome itself. The Dome is just the aid.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:24 am to Indfanfromcol
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I mentioned the renovations recently done to the Mercedes Benz Superdome. But they were overdue renovations.
Katrina had a lot to do with the stadium situation in New Orleans. Before Katrina there were vague talks about a new stadium. Afterwords the money simply wasn't there.
In case you didn't know, most stadiums are built with public money. Jerry Jones paying to build his own stadium is the rare exception. Getting a new stadium built has little to do with how good or wealthy a owner is. It has more to do with how much the owner can leverage the city/state where the team is located. Benson couldn't get a new stadium, but he did get some office buildings and renovations for pretty much free.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:32 am to Peazey
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In case you didn't know, most stadiums are built with public money
With the Falcons new stadium, only $200 is coming from public funds, and the stadium in total will be around 1.2 billion. City of Arlington provided the Cowboys with $325.
While Owners don't put up all the money, IMO a good owner finds ways to constantly keeps their stadium up-to date every season, regardless of doing so by building new stadiums or through major renovations.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:33 am to Indfanfromcol
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I think the difference is Blank has only had the team since 2002. So over half of the time owning the franchise, he has had the Smith and Dimitroff combo. While Smith has not shown to have a good post season, he is good in the regular season and a major improvement from what was there before.
Wow someone gets it. It took the Saints 20 years of ownership under Benson to get where they are. You can't ignore those years and only look at his body of work post Katrina.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:33 am to Nashty
Jerry Jones the owner is one of the best in the league as far as what an owner should be doing and that's making his team as profitable as he can. Dallas was losing $25M a yr when Jerry bought the Cowboys.
Now Jerry Jones the GM may be the worst GM in the history of sports. He has single handedly crushed the winning mentality of the Cowboys and I don't think they'll ever recover.
I'll never understand why Lambeau is automatically some great football shrine to most fans. First off, GB didn't start playing there until 1957. They played 126 games at County Stadium in Milwaukee from 1953 to 1994. And they probably would still be playing some games in Milwaukee if not for their resurrection and Brett Favre getting traded to them. From about 1968 to 1992 they were shite and players on other teams used to get threatened to be shipped off to Green Bay if they were doing something their current team didn't agree with
Now Jerry Jones the GM may be the worst GM in the history of sports. He has single handedly crushed the winning mentality of the Cowboys and I don't think they'll ever recover.
I'll never understand why Lambeau is automatically some great football shrine to most fans. First off, GB didn't start playing there until 1957. They played 126 games at County Stadium in Milwaukee from 1953 to 1994. And they probably would still be playing some games in Milwaukee if not for their resurrection and Brett Favre getting traded to them. From about 1968 to 1992 they were shite and players on other teams used to get threatened to be shipped off to Green Bay if they were doing something their current team didn't agree with
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:44 am to BamaDude06
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Wow someone gets it. It took the Saints 20 years of ownership under Benson to get where they are. You can't ignore those years and only look at his body of work post Katrina.
Benson bought a team that had never had a winning season ever, and in three years turned them into a team that had 7 straight non-losing seasons, 4 playoff appearances in 6 years, and a division title in that span.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:46 am to Indfanfromcol
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With the Falcons new stadium, only $200 is coming from public funds, and the stadium in total will be around 1.2 billion. City of Arlington provided the Cowboys with $325.
Apparently Jerry and Blenk are going beyond what most owners would. It seems pretty typical for owners to front a much smaller percent of the stadium costs.
Posted on 2/21/14 at 11:50 am to chillygentilly
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Benson bought a team that had never had a winning season ever, and in three years turned them into a team that had 7 straight non-losing seasons, 4 playoff appearances in 6 years, and a division title in that span.
and it was during those first few years in the same division as the championship 49ers as well.
He's gotta be 25 or younger to not know the saints had a decent bit of success in the late 80s early 90s.
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