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the master complaint OF THE PLAINTIFFS admits there has been literature on this since the 60s


well if it's so cut and dried then why wasn't this whole thing dismissed in MSJ?






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SlowFlowPro
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So the NFL also agreed to pay $765 million because it was cheaper than "bad PR"? It

yes

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It's always about money. T

which is how they calculated the settlement number

losses due to bad PR + legal fees + %losing(likely losses) = x. they would settle for amounts less than x. that's how you formulate settlements

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you do not have intricate knowledge of Best's lawsuit

why didn't he file it last year while he was on the PUP? he's a piece of shite for taking advantage of the Lions' charity and then shitting on them. if he wanted to sue, he should have done it last year prior to being vested






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Draconian Sanctions
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So the NFL also agreed to pay $765 million because it was cheaper than "bad PR"?



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yes




Alright, I'm done. Bravo sir, you've taken intellectual dishonesty to a new level.







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SlowFlowPro
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you're not emotional but you're talking about "true villains" like you've been personally wronged?

no it's a phrase i use from an IT Crowd episode when Moss is describing a soccer match (that he didn't watch)

if people want to point fingers, they should point fingers at the NFLPA and no other body. my main quesiton is why people want to make the NFL the "Bad guy" when it was the NFLPA who had the duty to players and possibly violated that duty?

i've asked you directly in this very thread and you avoided the question

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Then why settle if you're the NFL? If you're them you have the horses to appeal it with the best lawyers money can buy even if you get a bad judge.

are they going to have media outlets start to paint a fair picture? that didn't happen with korey stringer, why would it happen now? are they going to have their legal fees reimbursed? of course not, even if they win 100%

plus, as i've said, there is always the risk of bad law. the first time a defendant who had a valid contract entered into by 2 people had a judge create "adhesion", i'm sure he was shocked

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I tried linking just your poliboard posts but td.com doesn't have that feature yet, sadly.

i'm pro freedom and a legal system built on equality. you see that as being pro big business

i am arguing, in this very thread, that a collectively bargained employment agreement should be upheld. that is neither pro union or pro employee. you, as a professed fan of collective bargaining, should be defending the process as well.

you are basically arguing that even when the employee side of a labor negotiation fricks up, the effects of that error should be borne by the employers as a matter of course






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SlowFlowPro
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why wasn't this whole thing dismissed in MSJ?

the various motions were filed, but they came to a settlement. if that settlement gets thrown out i bet they continue on






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SlowFlowPro
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Bravo sir, you've taken intellectual dishonesty to a new level.

because taking 1 word out of a long post to attempt a "gotcha", while ignoring the remainder, is the height of intellectual honesty






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Lithium
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lawyers aren't gonna make any money chasing ambulances. need to go after the deep pockets





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lsutigerfan1976
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He knowingly went into the game and was compensated for his work. At no point was he forced to do anything and it wasnt like he didnt know the dangers as he has had plenty of experience with concussions


This is why i think all of the lawsuits period, against the league should be thrown out. Players, whether it was now, or 50 yrs ago knew the risk. Both short and long term, playing such a vicious sport. Some did it for the love of the game, others for the money. But no person or entity has every forced them into that. They could have done anything. But chose to participate in an NFL game. So their lawsuits to me are frivolous.






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Dylan
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I remember watching the play live. It was bad. It sucks for him he had a lot of talent. I don't agree with him suing though. He knew what he signed up for.





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RedMustang
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This is why i think all of the lawsuits period, against the league should be thrown out. Players, whether it was now, or 50 yrs ago knew the risk. Both short and long term, playing such a vicious sport. Some did it for the love of the game, others for the money. But no person or entity has every forced them into that. They could have done anything. But chose to participate in an NFL game. So their lawsuits to me are frivolous.


You've got to be kidding. There are risks in EVERYTHING you do. That doesn't absolve companies of guilt. Driving is risky. If your car fails or the other driver causes an accident, you have no case? You know driving is dangerous so you should have lived close enough to be able to walk to work.






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are they going to have media outlets start to paint a fair picture? that didn't happen with korey stringer, why would it happen now? are they going to have their legal fees reimbursed? of course not, even if they win 100%

I remember the day of Stringer's death very well. I live in Minnesota and that day was sweltering. I couldn't believe the players had practice in pads with the heat and humidity. Not only that, proper protocols weren't followed. Since his death, the NFL put in steps to hopefully prevent something like this from happening again.






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RedMustang
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plus, as i've said, there is always the risk of bad law


This might be your most ridiculous argument yet. By "bad law" you really mean that you don't agree with the judgment, correct?
If my team loses a game, I guess it was because of "bad judgement" by the referees?
DS and I are saying to just let the lawsuits have their day in court. Neither you or I have total knowledge of these cases. If you knew more than the lawyers representing theses cases, you wouldn't be posting on TD. Don't act like you are Alan Dershowitz because you slept in a Holiday Inn Express last night.






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tigerpimpbot
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that link is AWESOME


For some reason I missed all the behind the scenes jockeying that was going on. I'm not sure about the $765m number being sufficient, but taking away the ability to opt out seems to be the deal breaker. I think jahvid's attorney just said frick it, we aren't waiting on that shite show.

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It was like a dog and pony show, with no dog and no pony.
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tigerpimpbot
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quote: plus, as i've said, there is always the risk of bad law

This might be your most ridiculous argument yet. By "bad law" you really mean that you don't agree with the judgment, correct?


It's not ridiculous. It's a factor that all trial attorneys take into account before going to trial. If you read the link I posted, the lead players attorney was trying to jam this one through because he thinks there is a real chance that they go to trial and get zipped. That would be creating "bad law" for the players.

He was all butthurt because he settled a $4 billion Vioxx settlement and now all these factions of players and attorneys dare to question him.






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SlowFlowPro
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Driving is risky. If your car fails or the other driver causes an accident, you have no case?

how did the NFL fail?

what did another party do to hurt these players?







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SlowFlowPro
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By "bad law" you really mean that you don't agree with the judgment, correct?

what judgment? there hasn't been a major judgment yet

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DS and I are saying to just let the lawsuits have their day in court.

well they're trying to settle, so this will never happen






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Bump.


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Free agent Jahvid Best's concussion-related lawsuit against the NFL has been dismissed. Best was also suing helmet-makers Riddell and Easton-Bell Sports. Best can apparently refile the lawsuit, but it's unclear if he will do so. Best spent 2013 as a student assistant coach at his alma mater Cal. Although he's still only 25, his NFL career is through. Jun 5 - 8:43 PM








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FAF
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Free agent Jahvid Best's concussion-related lawsuit against the NFL has been dismissed


Good.

The NFL protected Jahvid Best from himself more than any other player in recent memory. If Best had his way, he would have been playing in late 2012 after his last concussion.






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SoFla Tideroller
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I wish the first line in the next CBS between the NFL and the players was, "You are going to get crippled, concussed and maimed for the rest of your life. If you want the money, pussy, fame, pussy, adulation and pussy that go along with playing in the NFL that is the price you will pay. But the game is going back to the rules before the Goodell-ization of the league took effect. Your participation in this profession is voluntary. If the benefits outweigh the risk in your mind, sign here."


I love when the Kornheisers of the world start crying about player safety. News flash: the fans don't give a shite. We want to see real American football in all its violent glory. If the players don't want to risk life-altering injuries let them fall back on that college degree they were given...






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Ralph_Wiggum
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The basis of these suits is that an employer has an obligation to provide you with the safest working conditions as reasonably possible.

When a construction worker gets hurt and it is found out that the employer didn't provide him with the necessary safety equipment or training or knew about risks that it did not do enough to protect against they are at fault.

Yes everyone knows football is dangerous and full of risks but it does not take away the obligation of the NFL to provide safety equipment that works and is appropriate and to ensure that it relays to players the risks and does not rush players out to play when they should not when the medical science tells them that they should not play.




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