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PC Guys... Intel's Upcoming CPU to Support DDR4

Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:45 am
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:45 am
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 11:59 am to
Yep, and it has me reconsidering making the jump to IB-E in september. I could wait another year or year and a half and build something new -- caselabs case, new 1200w PSU, socket 2011-3, Haswell-E, DDR4, and probably some 8000-series Radeon.

Might not be a wise use of my money now to buy into a socket with a year of life left in it. I have no doubt my 2600k @ 4.8GHz will be just fine until then.
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25249 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:05 pm to
PC gaming is so fricking over my head.

For the first time I'm actually interested though. I'll probably end up with a nice gaming PC in the next few years as I learn more about them.

ETA: I happen to like the Alienware computers. Does that make me the counterpart to Tapout clothing consumers?
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 12:07 pm
Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16638 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:06 pm to
I want to refresh some parts on my build in the next 6 months or so. This could be worth checking out. I'm primarily looking at a new CPU and then the necessary mods to accommodate that. I'm definitely behind the times in that department.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
AL
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:15 pm to
I'm interested to see the difference between ddr4 and ddr3 for ram. I doubt it makes any difference for gaming since gpu's have their own memory.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80733 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:19 pm to
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I'm interested to see the difference between ddr4 and ddr3 for ram. I doubt it makes any difference for gaming since gpu's have their own memory.



Some games are very CPU heavy though.
Posted by brucevilanch
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
24418 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:22 pm to
quote:


ETA: I happen to like the Alienware computers. Does that make me the counterpart to Tapout clothing consumers?


yes.





Building is ideal because its so my cheaper and you actually get to learn some things.
Posted by Mr Gardoki
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Some games are very CPU heavy though.

True but not many. Of course that may change with the technology. They may begin programming games to use it if it's that much better.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
17909 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:37 pm to
it will be interesting to see how the integrate the dance pad with the PC.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

Building is ideal because its so my cheaper and you actually get to learn some things.



This, so much.

It's very addicting once you get into it. Even after you build your PC, you find new little things you want to add to it. It's really a lot of fun.

Kind of like buying a stock car from Ford, versus having the aptitude to build your own with all of your own customized parts for what you want your build to specifically do.
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 12:55 pm
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31988 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:05 pm to
Im sticking with z77 until haswell-e and the x99 DDR4 chipset comes out.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

ETA: I happen to like the Alienware computers. Does that make me the counterpart to Tapout clothing consumers?


As far as I know, Alienware doesn't make bad computers, but they are high-end gaming machines that appear to have a massive profit margin. They also charge obscene amounts for CPU upgrades and overclocking. For example, in their base Aurora model, you get the i7-3820 by default with an overclock to 4.1GHz. For $100 more, they'll overclock it to 4.2...

Or, if you want the 3930k with a 3.9GHz clock, you can pay another $500, or $600 for 4.1Ghz. These overclocks are not significant.

I just randomly configured an alienware on Dell's website, which totaled $3549. I did the same thing on PCPartPicker (and I actually was overgenerous with part selection -- lower CAS ram, nicer case, likely a much better PSU and motherboard, etc), and I still came in at just under $2700, putting no real thought into price/performance optimization. I also added a corsair H100i.
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12525 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 4:35 pm to
The problem with alienware is even if you are richer than god and can afford one with no sweat, it's still a dumb decision to buy one.

They will still cut corners on certain parts and they will load stupid unecessary programs on the OS.

Their case is a good example. It has that distinct alienware look but for air flow and space I can probably link 100 cases that are better than theirs.

So your tapout analogy isn't completely accurate. Alienware really gets hated on because they are inferior no matter your income level.
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25249 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:03 pm to
Are there any pre-built machines that general consensus are > Alienware?

As stated, I literally know next to nothing in terms of PC hardware nor do I currently have an extreme desire to learn it.
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12525 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

Are there any pre-built machines that general consensus are > Alienware?

As stated, I literally know next to nothing in terms of PC hardware nor do I currently have an extreme desire to learn it.


Short answer: no

Long answer: they will almost always put in a generic motherboard, memory, and power supply, in a generic case.

I know complete retards that have built their own computers after watching the newegg.com series on how to build them. There isn't much of anything to learn, trust me.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:19 pm to
Actually, there are pre-built machines that are better than Alienware, but they come from places like iBuyPower -- they use the same components you'd get on Newegg. They build good PCs, but they have to make a profit. Kind of like buying furniture or something from a store. You can assemble it yourself, or pay the store extra to assemble it for you.

Except putting together shitty particle board furniture isn't fun and addicting.

You live in Baton Rouge? I'll build you one for free. (you buy the parts, obviously). Serious offer. I used to do it for money, now I do it for fun. Give me a budget and what you expect the PC to be able to handle, and I'll tell you what to buy. I'll put the thing together right in front of you, show you how simple it can be, install a free fully working copy of Windows 7 Ultimate, and you'll wonder why you even considered buying prebuilt.
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 9:20 pm
Posted by BuckeyeFan87
Columbus
Member since Dec 2007
25249 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:22 pm to
Awesome offer, honestly, but I live in Columbus and don't plan on getting into PC gaming for another year or two. Figure by then I may be ready to step away from the XB1(and save up a bit of money for a good PC).
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31988 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

ILikeLSUToo

trying to buy friends again i see
Posted by Mr Gardoki
AL
Member since Apr 2010
27652 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:24 pm to
Step away from the xbox1 now and build, you won't regret it.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 6/17/13 at 9:25 pm to
That's cool. Should've realized you weren't in BR from the name, but for a second I forgot who I was addressing (was looking at the previous poster's location since I was replying to him).

I'd just nix the XB1 and use that money, plus what you'd be spending on $60 XB1 games, and just build now.
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