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Negotiating Vehicle price - is my calculation/offer correct?

Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:05 pm
Posted by lsufanintexas
Member since Sep 2006
5117 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:05 pm
Invoice is 20k plus the destination fee of $900 so $20900

I am aware that there is a rebate of $1500. I countered their original price of $21700 with a walkout price of $19800.00

Am I off because the dealer came back "shocked"?

Btw, I'm negotiating over the internet/email so I don't have to do the whole high pressured sales thing at the dealer.


Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:33 pm to
Depends how much trouble they'll have moving the vehicle otherwise

Some dealers don't sell certain models at invoice I'm sure


Eta: you won't always get the best deals over the Internet and phone, they haven't invested much time into you as a customer so you aren't a big loss
This post was edited on 5/23/13 at 12:34 pm
Posted by guttata
prairieville
Member since Feb 2006
22655 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:39 pm to
I would have offered $19,600.
Posted by lsufanintexas
Member since Sep 2006
5117 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 1:03 pm to
It's a transit connect.

They have trouble moving new ones but no trouble moving used ones.

I'm looking at a new one.
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 1:50 pm to
$19,800 seems like a more than fair offer to me.

Btw, I bought my last car after doing all negotiating through email. I found it a much easier way to get the deal done and didn't have to worry about the different sales tactics. I basically told them, this is my offer, take it or leave it. They took it. I was buying a truck though and they tend to deal more on those.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
17600 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

I was buying a truck though and they tend to deal more on those.


American truck?
Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
1736 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 1:59 pm to
I think we are forgetting TTL if you are looking for a walk out price. That would eat through that rebate (i.e. walkout around $21,000 leaving little room for dealer profit).
Posted by JOHNN
Prairieville
Member since Nov 2008
4502 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:17 pm to
What kind of vehicle is this? Reason I ask is because there is ALOT more negotiating room on american vehicles than imported vehicles.

Also was the 21700 an internet price or a regularly advertised price? If its an internet price there isnt very much room because those prices are set low to get you in the dealership for a quick sale.

Lastly, you mentioned a rebate. Are you going to do any type of special financing offer with them? Because you either get the rebate and whatever interest rate you qualify for or no rebate and the super low interest rate.

I sold cars many years ago so if you give a little more info I can help out more.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50939 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

JOHNN


How much wiggle room can I expect to bring a dealership down from the internet price of a Tacoma?
Posted by JOHNN
Prairieville
Member since Nov 2008
4502 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

How much wiggle room can I expect to bring a dealership down from the internet price of a Tacoma?


If its new there will only be about a couple grand if that. If you can find the invoice on a new one then a more than fair deal would be 500 over invoice. Thats lets the salesman make about a 100 bucks and the dealership makes their minimum. If its used then there will be probably be around 4-5k from what the list at an what they paid.

Now the more popular colors will go for more because those are easier to sell. Also always buy at the very end of the month because the managers are more willing to negotiate further in order to reach their sales bonuses.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50939 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

JOHNN


Thanks man!
Posted by crawfishcharlie
Crawfishtown, USA
Member since Dec 2003
4884 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

Also always buy at the very end of the month because the managers are more willing to negotiate further in order to reach their sales bonuses.



Very true......I was a sales manager at one time

one or two vehicle sales sometimes mean big bucks to managers
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

American truck?


Yep, Ford F-150

OP-see if you can find out what their holdback is. Also there is a way you can find out exactly what they paid for the vehicle. I don't remember how though, but it's been mentioned on here before.
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5369 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 5:57 pm to
quote:

I think we are forgetting TTL if you are looking for a walk out price.


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