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re: If we win the sec tourney...do we get the top national seed?
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:27 pm to dreaux
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:27 pm to dreaux
I have to suspect the selection committee will tilt things in favor of the team that brings the most revenue. That may or may not translate into a #1 seed but it might mean an easier trip to the title series.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:33 pm to foshizzle
Not just no but Hell no. And it basically doesn't matter anyway.
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:52 pm to dreaux
quote:
Is being the number 1 overall seed any bigger advantage to being an 8 seed?
yes, if I remember correctly. The seeds carry over into the CWS bracket, so if all 8 national seeds made it to Omaha, the #1 seed would play the #8 seed.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:55 pm to LSU=Champions
quote:
Possible, but very likely not.
America hates LSU
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:56 pm to mctiger1985
LSU will NOT be lower than 4, and they will not be paired with Vanderbilt. And you never know which Super Regional the Kent State and Stony Brook come out of. They don't reseed like they should, but that's for another thread.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 8:58 pm to dreaux
quote:
Is being the number 1 overall seed any bigger advantage to being an 8 seed?
not much
Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:03 pm to dreaux
We absolutely would lock up the #1 seed if we win out in the SECt
Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:17 pm to eelsuee
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If Vandy goes 0-2 and LSU sweeps then Vandy will be 48-9 and LSU will be 52-8. I would be a little surprised if LSU didn't take over the #1 spot. ETA: as long as they are #1 and #2 and in different brackets (if they both make it to Omaha) then I will be happy.
If NC would lose out in the ACC tourney that would help too.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:40 pm to Oyster
I think the best case for us being #1 is for Vandy to win the next three games and then lose to us in the Championship. They would be 51-10, we would be 52-8 with a head to head win over them. How can that not work. (should help our RPI, also). In any event, if we win out, no way any team below us should move above us.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:54 pm to tadelatt
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No. LSU will lock up a 2 seed and Vandy would end up 3 or 4.
Cal St goes 1 in that scenario
On what basis does CSF end up the 1 seed?
Posted on 5/22/13 at 9:58 pm to The Boat
None if LSU wins the tournament. Not sure where he got that from. They're behind us in rpi as it is. That won't change if we win out.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 10:03 pm to bbap
Exactly.. I'm thinking he's keeping LSU from the 1 seed because of their RPI and putting CSF at 1 without looking at their RPI.
LSU will be a top 3 seed in they win the SEC tournament.
Every year is different but the 1 seed doesn't win the CWS too often. LSU won the national title as a 2 and 3 seed.. I'd take the 2 seed.
LSU will be a top 3 seed in they win the SEC tournament.
Every year is different but the 1 seed doesn't win the CWS too often. LSU won the national title as a 2 and 3 seed.. I'd take the 2 seed.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:15 am to tadelatt
I know the RPI has a lot to do with NCAA tourney seedings but I want to ask if RPI is already locked and conference championships have no bearing on RPI? Is that why conference tourneys are not taken seriously by top teams?
Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:22 am to tadelatt
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So you would have to flip then around and cal st might slide into the 1 spot.
Um no, Cal St Fullerton isn't even in the top national seed discussion.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:25 am to jeffereycole
I hate it when people say "as long as LSU is a national seed it doesn't matter." It definitely matters. Would you rather be the 8 seed playing the 1 or the 1 playing the 8?? It's like when a team is making a comeback and the announcers say "well that run doesn't really matter." Hell yeah it matters, that run is kind of important in completing the comeback.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:32 am to LSUcc
No it really doesn't matter at that point.
First, it's never a guarantee that the national seed even makes it to Omaha so it's all a guess. You never know who will actually be filling that spot in the CWS. Secondly, at that point in getting to Omaha, all the teams there are good, especially the top seeds. The difference in playing a UNC, Oregon, CSF, Oregon State or Florida State is marginal at best and all teams will have a quality ace to throw at you, that much is sure.
First, it's never a guarantee that the national seed even makes it to Omaha so it's all a guess. You never know who will actually be filling that spot in the CWS. Secondly, at that point in getting to Omaha, all the teams there are good, especially the top seeds. The difference in playing a UNC, Oregon, CSF, Oregon State or Florida State is marginal at best and all teams will have a quality ace to throw at you, that much is sure.
This post was edited on 5/23/13 at 12:33 am
Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:39 am to LSU=Champions
Ok, well you can hope to play the top overall seed and I will hope to play whoever is in the 8th spot, but the chances of advancing as one of the top seeds are better.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 1:23 am to dreaux
Vandy has a series win at Oregon and won a midweek game at Louisville. And won every series in conference, going 26-3. These factors seem more important for seeding them #1 than the SEC tournament results. LSU has a great resume and would be the hotter team, but I'd go with Vandy.
Posted on 5/23/13 at 3:35 am to TigerattheU
Here is how I see it playing out.
For LSU to be a #1 seed:
- Must win SEC Tournament
- Vandy must finish 4th or worse in SEC Tournament (along with LSU winning of tourney)
- UNC must not win ACC tournament
If this plays out I see:
1- LSU
2- Cal St.
3- ACC winner not named UNC)
4- Vandy
For Cal St to be #1 seed:
- LSU, Vandy, UNC all do not win conference tournament.
If all this plays out I see:
1. Cal St.
2. Vandy
3. ACC winner
4. LSU
For Vandy to be #1 seed:
- Finish 3rd or better in SEC tournament
1. Vandy
2. Cal St.
3. ACC winner
4. LSU
For UNC to be #1 seed:
- Win ACC tournament
- Vandy doesn't win SEC tourney
1- UNC
2- LSU/Vandy (whichever wins SEC tourney- if neither then Vandy)
3- Cal St
4- LSU
I don't see any other team being in the running for a #1 seed. Florida State already seems to be starting their post season choke fest in the ACC tourney. Virginia also lost today, but they still have plenty of baseball to play with their pool play crap they have going on.
However, the selection committe has probably already started smoking their heavy doses of crack and no telling what could happen. I see the ACC winner getting as high a national seed as possible, especially if it's a team that did really well during the season (UNC/Virginia/Florida St. - I don't see NC State jumping up into the top 3 or 4.)
Either way there is no way in hell, even with the people selecting high on crack, that LSU is not a national seed. And really they should not fall anywhere below 4-5. If the SEC West continues to dominate this tournament then I think LSU should get some more solid looks for coming out of that division the winner, ahead of Vandy with a better conference record in a weaker eastern division.
For LSU to be a #1 seed:
- Must win SEC Tournament
- Vandy must finish 4th or worse in SEC Tournament (along with LSU winning of tourney)
- UNC must not win ACC tournament
If this plays out I see:
1- LSU
2- Cal St.
3- ACC winner not named UNC)
4- Vandy
For Cal St to be #1 seed:
- LSU, Vandy, UNC all do not win conference tournament.
If all this plays out I see:
1. Cal St.
2. Vandy
3. ACC winner
4. LSU
For Vandy to be #1 seed:
- Finish 3rd or better in SEC tournament
1. Vandy
2. Cal St.
3. ACC winner
4. LSU
For UNC to be #1 seed:
- Win ACC tournament
- Vandy doesn't win SEC tourney
1- UNC
2- LSU/Vandy (whichever wins SEC tourney- if neither then Vandy)
3- Cal St
4- LSU
I don't see any other team being in the running for a #1 seed. Florida State already seems to be starting their post season choke fest in the ACC tourney. Virginia also lost today, but they still have plenty of baseball to play with their pool play crap they have going on.
However, the selection committe has probably already started smoking their heavy doses of crack and no telling what could happen. I see the ACC winner getting as high a national seed as possible, especially if it's a team that did really well during the season (UNC/Virginia/Florida St. - I don't see NC State jumping up into the top 3 or 4.)
Either way there is no way in hell, even with the people selecting high on crack, that LSU is not a national seed. And really they should not fall anywhere below 4-5. If the SEC West continues to dominate this tournament then I think LSU should get some more solid looks for coming out of that division the winner, ahead of Vandy with a better conference record in a weaker eastern division.
This post was edited on 5/23/13 at 3:37 am
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