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Mike da Tigah
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The test was whether or not the shirt was a disruption. A public school student does not have any right to speech that is disruptive to the mission of the school.


Truth of the matter is Rex, the government doesn't award those rights.







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matthew25
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The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that students can be forced to listen to sermons about God, Satan, Allah, Mohammed, Buddah, a cow, the sun and moon, the Pope, and pictures of Jesus in a pizza. They are purchasing prayer rugs for all schools in Mississippi. Parents can opt out by paying for children to attend private schools.

Amirite?






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Sl4m
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Rex

The sane logical thinking man surrounded by brainwashed lunatics.







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Antonio Moss
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re: Mississippi public school forces students to listen to Jesus lecture


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The test was whether or not the shirt was a disruption. A public school student does not have any right to speech that is disruptive to the mission of the school.


That's actually not the test. It's whether the speech can reasonably said to be 1) intimidating to others or 2) distributive to the normal flow of school.

A t-shirt with "NRA" on it clearly meets neither of these qualifications and so the teacher and school's actions were blatantly unconstitutional.






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Bayou
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Arizona Desert
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But Rex - you're good with Evolutional bias being force fed to those that don't believe it, right? Where does the hypocrite label belong???





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Antonio Moss
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But Rex - you're good with Evolutional bias being force fed to those that don't believe it, right? Where does the hypocrite label belong???




There is a difference between science and religion. One is supposed to be taught in public schools; there other isn't.






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NC_Tigah
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One is supposed to be taught in public schools; the other isn't.
FWIW, that's probably an overstatement






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Antonio Moss
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FWIW, that's probably an overstatement


In what regard?






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NC_Tigah
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In what regard?
Supposedly religion can be taught in public school






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Antonio Moss
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Supposedly religion can be taught in public school


As practice, it can't. Obviously comparative religion is taught in college. I would be interested if HS have been allowed to teach comparative religion. As judge, I would probably not allow it.






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Mike da Tigah
St. Denham Rougeville
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I would be interested if HS have been allowed to teach comparative religion. As judge, I would probably not allow it.


Curious what you would base your judgement on to differentiate one public university from another constitutionally.







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Antonio Moss
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Curious what you would base your judgement on to differentiate one public university from another constitutionally.


Adult students, less student captivity, more resources for independent thought.

It's not that I'd have a problem with a comparative religion elective class, it's just that have zero faith in public high school teachers to teach it correctly and not use it as a platform to profess faith.

It just seems like an easy place to draw a hard line.






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NC_Tigah
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As judge, I would probably not allow it.
Sad, and reflective of an obviously problematic misinterpretation of the Constitution.






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Antonio Moss
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Sad, and reflective of an obviously problematic misinterpretation of the Constitution.


Meh, I've logged a ton of hours on the Constitution and the ideas behind the country's founding - really focusing on the personal writings of Jefferson and Madison. I feel pretty confident in my understanding of Madison's thought process when he penned those words.

But I could always be wrong.






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NC_Tigah
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I feel pretty confident in my understanding of Madison's thought process when he penned those words.

But I could always be wrong.
Indeed.
That's obviously why religion was so thoroughly barred from schools, government, etc. during Madison's time.






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srotaG adirolF
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I've had some unpleasant personal experience with liberals and their self-righteous anti-Christian atheism.


fify



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Antonio Moss
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That's obviously why religion was so thoroughly barred from schools, government, etc. during Madison's time.




14th Amendment changed a lot of things. The 1st Amendment didn't apply to state and local governments (who run public schools) until after the Civil War.

And there weren't exactly a lot of public schools in Madison's lifetime. However there was a prominent state public schools system in Virginia - started by Madison's chief consultant and the architect of our country, Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson's curriculum excluded religious studies from public school systems because of his cornerstone belief in separating church and state and the improper use of taxpayer funds to finance a belief system on which not everyone agrees.






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RCDfan1950
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I DARE you to watch the movie "Monumental", Rex. Teen getting big bucks to get pregnant...boys paid enough to buy $20k for tires/rims on a car.

Brilliant. The road toward societal peace and prosperity!

Buckle up. Forward!






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germandawg
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How many children were harmed at this event?


All of 'em have been exposed to a gateway psychosis....






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NC_Tigah
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The 1st Amendment didn't apply to state and local governments






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