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Bill Snyder: Money-driven college football is "in a bad place"
Posted on 4/17/13 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 4/17/13 at 5:39 pm
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In comments made to The Star and Metro Sports before the KC Catbackers Club meeting Tuesday in Overland Park, and to KCSP (610 AM) in an interview aired Wednesday morning, Snyder said college football "was in a bad place." "We've allowed it to be TV-driven, and allowed it to become more important to a university than it should be," Snyder said. "We're educational institutions, and what's really important is trying to enhance the lives of young people and give them guidance and direction to help themselves."
In the radio interview, Snyder was asked if the game's state would have an impact on his future, if "he wants to be in it much longer." Snyder's response: "You're not too far away. You're absolutely right." He also said he was "grossly overpaid for what I do. That's part of what creates the issue." Snyder signed a new five-year contract worth $14.75 million in January. But Snyder said the problems aren't unsolvable. "It's like anything else, it can correct itself," Snyder said. Snyder, whose Wildcats are coming off a Big 12 championship season, is expected to be back in Kansas City on Friday to accept the Burns & McDonnell Coach of the Year Award at the Kansas City Sports Commission Banquet.
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Posted on 4/17/13 at 5:44 pm to Kafka
Practice what you preach then Bill.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 5:55 pm to sbr2
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Practice what you preach then Bill.
He's right, though. In 15-20 years there may be a lot of vacant white-elephant stadiums scattered on campuses across the country. Including ours. The current system is unsustainable.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 5:57 pm to Kafka
100% agree. Just look at LSU right now. Shutting down undergrad programs, hospitals, deans and chancellors leaving, but Miles gets a payraise and theres constant additions and improvements to athletic facilities.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 6:08 pm to Kafka
Coach Old Balls is one of my favorites. He gets pretty damn consistent chemistry from juco filled teams, which can be a wildly hit or miss scenario. I hope as he sees his retirement coming he gets more and more truthy. Not because we all don't know what's going on, but it's just nice to hear someone fess the hell up to it.
And he said "we've", which is nice.
And he said "we've", which is nice.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 6:11 pm to Jim Rockford
Your school is a pussy if you aint got 100 grand stadium capacity. We have a hard time keeping it filled up as it is but you have to keep up with the Jones'.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 6:18 pm to Kafka
quote:i appreciate him admitting theres a problem, but in the next sentence he admits to perpetuating the problem. if you really think youre overpaid, dont take the raise. dont talk about it, be about it.
"grossly overpaid for what I do. That's part of what creates the issue." Snyder signed a new five-year contract worth $14.75 million in January.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 6:21 pm to Adam Banks
quote:The funding doesn't come from the same sources. Miles' salary primarily originates from the money coming in because of a successful program, not resources diverted from retaining professors or academic administrators. What's really not sustainable is channeling money earned by the athletic department towards academic interests. That money will eventually dry up if those responsible for it are not compensated for their achievement, causing them to seek different opportunities and leaving the program unable to maintain the same level of success. It's relatively free market and therefore, with minimal impediment, the market should correct itself. Just MO.
Shutting down undergrad programs, hospitals, deans and chancellors leaving, but Miles gets a payraise and theres constant additions and improvements to athletic facilities.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 6:22 pm to Adam Banks
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100% agree. Just look at LSU right now. Shutting down undergrad programs, hospitals, deans and chancellors leaving, but Miles gets a payraise and theres constant additions and improvements to athletic facilities.
The LSU Athletics Department turns over a profit to the university. In any case, the AD budget of most universities (nearly all of whom take a net loss on athletics) is a drop in the bucket.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 6:23 pm to MetArl15
college sports should be amateur athletes only.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 6:31 pm to shuke33
exactly, therefore you don't have to pay the agents of the success, freeing more resources to self-sustain.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 6:31 pm to MetArl15
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The funding doesn't come from the same sources.
People can tell themselves this lie all they want but its the funding for athletics (TAF etc.) is coming from the same pool who would be donating money to LSU if the university would get its priorities straight. I dont blame the donors. LSU and the state in general has shown its priorities and no one wants to not see the sew their seed on barren ground.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 6:31 pm to Adam Banks
Sports and the univ are two COMPLETELY different things. People mix those two up and think "if Miles didn't get a raise then LSU wouldn't have had to drop Program X." Not true
Posted on 4/17/13 at 6:46 pm to Akit1
If in 30 years, college athletics resembles its current state, I will be shocked. The O'Bannon/Keller lawsuit is going to go all the way to the Supreme Court, and I don't see how the SC will side with the NCAA.
College coaching salaries are obviously a joke right now, and they will come crashing down when players are given control over their images. I can see players never getting paid by the schools, but when a barely literate 18-year old steps on campus with a million dollars worth of endorsements from shoe companies, local car dealers, Powerade, etc., we'll see just how sustainable college basketball and college football are.
ETA: LSU is not using university fees to finance its athletic programs. That puts it in a minority among D-1 programs.
College coaching salaries are obviously a joke right now, and they will come crashing down when players are given control over their images. I can see players never getting paid by the schools, but when a barely literate 18-year old steps on campus with a million dollars worth of endorsements from shoe companies, local car dealers, Powerade, etc., we'll see just how sustainable college basketball and college football are.
ETA: LSU is not using university fees to finance its athletic programs. That puts it in a minority among D-1 programs.
This post was edited on 4/17/13 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 4/17/13 at 6:49 pm to Dr. 3
Considering there are only six stadiums that seat over 100,000 in FBS (3 B1G, 2 SEC and DKR) I guess pretty much all the schools are pussies. 
Posted on 4/17/13 at 6:56 pm to shuke33
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college sports should be amateur athletes only
What's needed is to ban athletic "scholarships'
Let the LeBronabes (I just made that up!!!) go play in minor leagues. College athletics should be for student-athletes.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 7:03 pm to Kafka
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What's needed is to ban athletic "scholarships'
Let the LeBronabes (I just made that up!!!) go play in minor leagues. College athletics should be for student-athletes.
Thank you. And hold them to the SAME academic standards as regular students instead of "hooking" them up with grades so they can play. Seems like over 30% of college football players shouldn't even be at Div 1 schools.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 7:07 pm to bayou2003
I have long said division one athletics is out of control.
Basically universities are funding minor league pro franchises which is not what universities should be doing.
TV is to blame but so are university presidents who have allowed themselves to be seduced by the all mighty dollar.
Basically universities are funding minor league pro franchises which is not what universities should be doing.
TV is to blame but so are university presidents who have allowed themselves to be seduced by the all mighty dollar.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 7:08 pm to bayou2003
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Seems like over 30% of college football players shouldn't even be at Div 1 schools.
The percentage is much much higher at most division one schools. Entire departments are dedicated to keeping them eligible something the common student does not have access to.
Posted on 4/17/13 at 7:09 pm to Kafka
There is an issue RE: sustainability. Around 20 schools are making an athletic department profit on paper (although many of those actually subsidize their athletic programs lowering the real profit margin IMO). The next 100 athletic programs with "1a" football programs are losing money and the pressure for them to overspend on coached and facilities in spite of this is real and dangerous for them.
Snyder is going to be accussed of hypocrisy on this one to some degree though. He brings in a lot of marginal academic prospects from junior colleges only because they can play football... while he pulls in a very serious salary.
Does he deserve this salary in economic terms? Yes, he is one of the very few coaches who probably does as he has twice demonstrated by taking a doormat in KSU to the point of relevance and beyond. But, even if he deserves the salary in economic terms he loses some moral standing if he wants to opine on the dangers of a college sport that is now more business than academic while using the sport to make himself a multimillionaire.
Snyder is going to be accussed of hypocrisy on this one to some degree though. He brings in a lot of marginal academic prospects from junior colleges only because they can play football... while he pulls in a very serious salary.
Does he deserve this salary in economic terms? Yes, he is one of the very few coaches who probably does as he has twice demonstrated by taking a doormat in KSU to the point of relevance and beyond. But, even if he deserves the salary in economic terms he loses some moral standing if he wants to opine on the dangers of a college sport that is now more business than academic while using the sport to make himself a multimillionaire.
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