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braindeadboxer
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They should have used protection. It's a shame that one guy gets knocked up by another and then bails out. Oh wait.... I've got no problems with them being gay or even getting married. But, two men were never intended to raise kids.





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SammyTiger
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I would assume the one who makes more pays to the one who makes less if he has custody. They would decide this in courts.

But really shouldn't it say something about custody laws that you don't even consider the mother paying child support?






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EST
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Gay marriage is one thing. Allowing them to adopt children is another - and it should not be allowed.





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NoHoTiger
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Surely, the legal verbiage is not "mom is custodial parent" etc.

BHP, did you forget where you are? Gotta take your logic and reasoning and go away.






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NoHoTiger
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Had they taken the legal steps required by law, then there would be no responsibility toward the donor

There you go with that logic and reason again.






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BlackHelicopterPilot
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NoHoTiger


sorr-reee






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NoHoTiger
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In gay relationships how do they introduce themselves?

By name? Not everyone or everything needs to be defined by a title.






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Nuts4LSU
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Just how in the hell is that going to work in the case of a divorce where child support will be mandated to the "dad" or the "mom"?


Exactly the way it works now. In a divorce, custody and child support are determined, usually with one parent being the domiciliary custodian (the child lives with that parent) and with child support paid to that parent by the non-domiciliary parent. There would be no need for that to change with same-sex marriages.






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Nuts4LSU
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Maybe gay marriage has will help make divorce settlements/custody rulings/child support more fair and balanced since they will have to rework the laws


There would be no need to rework the laws. They would apply in same-sex marriages the same way they do in other marriages now.






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Nuts4LSU
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The point he's saying (at least, I think) is the way the laws are currently set up/how judges rule always heavily favor the maternal parents in terms of custody, child support, alimony after divorces, etc... Since the current default is currently the mom, what will the default be for these new situations?


Even though mothers still win custody more often than fathers, there is no "default" in the law now. Both parents have equal opportunity to win the custody case, at least in theory. That would be no different in same-sex marriages. What gives women the advantage over their husbands these days, especially when the children involved are very young, is the preference for keeping the child with the parent who has been the "primary caregiver", which is still more often the mother than the father. Legally, though, there is no preference for either.

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What criteria will be used to determine who the best parent is, how assets will be split, child support percentages, etc...


The same ones that are used now.



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Nuts4LSU
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Surely, the legal verbiage is not "mom is custodial parent" etc.

I would suspect it would be more like "Susan Q. Public shall be the custodial parent". Am I wrong?

If correct, it becomes simple: "John Q. Public is custodial parent. John Doe shall pay ____ in child support"


You are exactly right.






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Nuts4LSU
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The crowd that thinks they'll be no ramifications and is always asking," how will it affect you" need to open their eyes. It will affect everyone and through taxes, it will affect everyone in the pocketbook.


Gay marriage is going to raise your taxes?

How?






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BayouBlitz
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Gay marriage is one thing. Allowing them to adopt children is another - and it should not be allowed.


Hey man, the 50's called. They want their mindset back.






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SlowFlowPro
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usually with one parent being the domiciliary custodian

the mom

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and with child support paid to that parent by the non-domiciliary parent.

the dad






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Eighteen
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Even though mothers still win custody more often than fathers, there is no "default" in the law now. Both parents have equal opportunity to win the custody case, at least in theory. That would be no different in same-sex marriages. What gives women the advantage over their husbands these days, especially when the children involved are very young, is the preference for keeping the child with the parent who has been the "primary caregiver", which is still more often the mother than the father. Legally, though, there is no preference for either.


Technically, yes...but we both no this isn't how it is in real life.

And I was also talking about divorce with no kids as well in terms of splitting assets and alimony.



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SammyTiger
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usually with one parent being the domiciliary custodian

the mom

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and with child support paid to that parent by the non-domiciliary parent.

the dad


Traditionally but not always. Women are making more, getting better educated. There are not stay at home dads. I hate a teacher in high school that was married to a DR. i doubt she would be considered domiciliary.






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SlowFlowPro
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Women are making more, getting better educated. There are not stay at home dads. I hate a teacher in high school that was married to a DR. i doubt she would be considered domiciliary.

i agree women have made MAJOR progress in the economy, but the numbers in family cases don't line up with that. they dominate






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SammyTiger
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i agree women have made MAJOR progress in the economy, but the numbers in family cases don't line up with that. they dominate



Thats probably true, but these things should be dealt with on a case by case basis. I think judges probably too often take the easy way out and give custody to the mom.






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Mootsman
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The twink will received the kids.

The power bottom thus will in turn be hurled into a midlife crisis to where he shows up at the twinks house every other weekend wearing a leather jacket and driving a trans am to pick up said kid for the weekend, take him to see a ballet, go shopping for low fat organic tofu at Trader Joes, and other homosexual "time with dad" activities.






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hottub
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I predict the divorce rate to be much higher between two dudes than two lesbos.


I actually read a few months ago that lesbians have the highest divorce rates. It was in the 90% range. Gay men was in the 80% range and heterosexuals was slightly above 50%. With second and third marriages being between 70 and 80% divorce rates.

I will try to find the link.






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