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Did MJ have the greatest supporting cast ever?
Posted on 2/14/13 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 2/14/13 at 6:47 pm
I got into a debate with this guy at the barbershop who claimed that MJ had the greatest supporting cast ever and that's why he won those championship. He used the Bulls' '94 playoff run without His Airness as the basis of his argument. He must have forgotten the Lakers and Celtics of the 70s and 80s and the Bad Boy Pistons.
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Posted on 2/14/13 at 6:48 pm to LSUTil_iDie
He did have a great coach. It makes you wonder how LJ would do with Phil as a coach.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 6:48 pm to LSUTil_iDie
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He must have forgotten the Lakers and Celtics of the 70s and 80s and the Bad Boy Pistons.
Yep
Magic had Kareem and Worthy
Larry had DJ, McHale and Parrish
Kobe had Shaq, Pau and Lamar
LeBron had Wade and Bosh
Common theme here?
Posted on 2/14/13 at 6:49 pm to LSUTil_iDie
No I'd say Duncan if he counts as "the star"
Or Magic Johnson
Either way this is about to be a MJ vs Lebron thread
Or Magic Johnson
Either way this is about to be a MJ vs Lebron thread
Posted on 2/14/13 at 6:49 pm to LSUTil_iDie
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Did MJ have the greatest supporting cast ever?
Not even close.
MJ, Magic and BIRD are the THREE players that make me say that they were SOOOOOO Good at making other players around them MUCH better that its just funny. ANYONE who thinks a TODAY NBA player makes their team better compared to those three are just plain STUPID.
/RANT.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 6:53 pm to LSUTil_iDie
Bill Wennington, Luk Longley, Hanson, Cartwright, Dennis Hopson, Steve Kerr, John Paxson? C'mon man. Pippen was a great defender, Rodman was a great rebounder. But no. MJ did not have the "greatest supporting cast ever."
Posted on 2/14/13 at 6:59 pm to LSUTil_iDie
Not even close. MJ never played with a HOF big man unless you consider Dennis Rodman to be a "big man". Larry Bird easily had the strongest supporting cast among the all-time great players. He had three HOF teammates in their prime (Kevin McHale, Robert Parish, Dennis Johnson) for a bulk of his career plus he also had other HOF teammates like Bill Walton, Tiny Archibald and Pete Maravich at various points in his career. Bird easily had the strongest supporting cast ever.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 7:00 pm to LSUTil_iDie
Without even trying, AC Green, Worthy, Kareem and Byron Scott, off the top of my head, is arguably a better supporting cast
Posted on 2/14/13 at 7:04 pm to LSUTil_iDie
He had a great #2 in Pippen (good enough to be #1 anywhere else maybe) and a bunch of guys who were great role players and replaceable parts.
Rodman was a great rebounder and defender. Kukoc was a very good player who was too lazy to become as great as he should have been.
Rodman was a great rebounder and defender. Kukoc was a very good player who was too lazy to become as great as he should have been.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 7:06 pm to LSUTil_iDie
The title teams the 2nd go round were pretty loaded. The early ones not so much.
Still never had the best supporting cast ever.
Still never had the best supporting cast ever.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 7:12 pm to LSUTil_iDie
Birds supporting cast was legendary on 1987
Robert Parish
Dennis Johnson
Kevin Mchale
Danny Ainge
Rick Carlilse
Bill Walton
Robert Parish
Dennis Johnson
Kevin Mchale
Danny Ainge
Rick Carlilse
Bill Walton
Posted on 2/14/13 at 7:42 pm to LSUTil_iDie
Bill Russell. I think there were six Hall of Famers on that Celtics team.
Magic is #2. That Lakers team was staaaaaacked.
Magic is #2. That Lakers team was staaaaaacked.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:00 pm to LSUTil_iDie
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I got into a debate with this guy at the barbershop who claimed that MJ had the greatest supporting cast ever and that's why he won those championship.
So Unknownknight cuts hair for a living?
Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:12 pm to LSUTil_iDie
Great teams win championships, so of course he had a nice supporting cast. But, not even in the realm of greatest ever.
The most shocking theme is MJ never played with a great 4 or 5 on those teams. Horace was a really nice/good player, but not near great. You really couldn't argue Horace was ever top 5 any year at the PF position, much less ever in the conversation of elite big man. Also, it's when the league had legit big men. It's hard to name championship teams w/o a good to great big man. Yet, MJ did it 6 times.
*The late 80s Pistons, come to mind not having great Big men.
The most shocking theme is MJ never played with a great 4 or 5 on those teams. Horace was a really nice/good player, but not near great. You really couldn't argue Horace was ever top 5 any year at the PF position, much less ever in the conversation of elite big man. Also, it's when the league had legit big men. It's hard to name championship teams w/o a good to great big man. Yet, MJ did it 6 times.
*The late 80s Pistons, come to mind not having great Big men.
This post was edited on 2/14/13 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:54 pm to LSUTil_iDie
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ANYONE who thinks a TODAY NBA player makes their team better compared to those three are just plain STUPID.
To say LeBron doesn't do that is just ignorant. Check out the supporting cast that he had when he took the Cavs to the Finals. Ilgauskas is the only one to even go to an all-star game in his whole career.
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Also, it's when the league had legit big men. It's hard to name championship teams w/o a good to great big man. Yet, MJ did it 6 times.
Horace Grant can no doubt be put in the "good to great" big man convo (on the good side). Bosh's impact on offense is about equal to Grant's impact on defense.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 9:03 pm to LSUTil_iDie
He had a good one..but never a great supporting cast.
Now Hakeem's first championship...he had probably the worst supporting cast ever. And his second was probably the second worst...but at least he had an over the hill Drexler
Now Hakeem's first championship...he had probably the worst supporting cast ever. And his second was probably the second worst...but at least he had an over the hill Drexler
Posted on 2/14/13 at 10:46 pm to LSUTil_iDie
Will Perdue was legit
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