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re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4?

Posted on 2/14/13 at 9:35 am to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/14/13 at 9:35 am to
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Can't one do both?



I gave it a go once, it got very confusing.
Posted by Big Sway
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/14/13 at 10:03 am to
True that Hog man! We need a huge nose tackle to make this work and another big on the other side of Jordan. I predict we will be filling this from a trade or 1'st and 3'rd picks in draft.
Posted by WhistlingDixie
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Posted on 2/14/13 at 4:45 pm to
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The 3-4 we're running is one gap (I think; I forget the difference between one gap and two gap) and ask the down linemen to penatrate and be disruptive, not simply hold their blocks to let the linebackers roam free. If it was the latter, we'd need a big fat guy in the middle.


You're right. The Ryan brothers are one gap guys. The difference is defensive lineman responsibility. In one gap, the d-linemen (DE,NT,DE) are each responsible for "one-gap". This limited responsibility allows them to fire off and disrupt their gap. Two-gap defensive linemen are anchors, with their job being to hold their ground and read/react to the offensive linemen. The different responsibilities lend themselves to different players.

That is just my understanding, I could be wrong.
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 2/14/13 at 5:23 pm to
Parcells told him to.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 2/14/13 at 5:26 pm to
Sounds good to me, but I'm just learning about the 3-4 myself.
Posted by kclsufan
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Posted on 2/14/13 at 5:31 pm to
Another point Payton himself made is that there's more 3-4 talent coming from the college ranks than 4-3 talent, so the switch in part was about recognizing that reality.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/14/13 at 7:50 pm to
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Because SP is tired of not being able to find a decent 43 coordinator


It's also easier to find 3-4 OLB's than it is to find really good 4-3 DE's.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/14/13 at 7:52 pm to
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The 3-4 we're running is one gap (I think; I forget the difference between one gap and two gap) and ask the down linemen to penatrate and be disruptive, not simply hold their blocks to let the linebackers roam free


Wouldn't this be an even worse fit for Bunkley than him being the "big fat guy in the middle"?
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/14/13 at 7:59 pm to
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Another point Payton himself made is that there's more 3-4 talent coming from the college ranks than 4-3 talent, so the switch in part was about recognizing that reality


Never heard he said this, but it's a great point. It's mainly about pass rushers I think. The top pass rushing DE's in college seem to be getting smaller and more suited to play rush LB.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
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Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:01 pm to
Hell, shite I don't know. I ain't gotta make these decisions! GET OFF MY BACK!
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:22 pm to
Lol, didn't mean to put so much pressure on you.
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