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Chad504boy 
New Orleans Saints Fan
Five Oh Four
Member since Feb 2005
64803 posts
| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 9:35 am to baytiger)
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Can't one do both?
I gave it a go once, it got very confusing.
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Big Sway 
LSU Fan
Member since Nov 2009
1181 posts
| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 10:03 am to Patrick O Rly)
True that Hog man! We need a huge nose tackle to make this work and another big on the other side of Jordan. I predict we will be filling this from a trade or 1'st and 3'rd picks in draft.
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WhistlingDixie
New Orleans Saints Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2011
11 posts
| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 4:45 pm to Patrick O Rly)
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The 3-4 we're running is one gap (I think; I forget the difference between one gap and two gap) and ask the down linemen to penatrate and be disruptive, not simply hold their blocks to let the linebackers roam free. If it was the latter, we'd need a big fat guy in the middle.
You're right. The Ryan brothers are one gap guys. The difference is defensive lineman responsibility. In one gap, the d-linemen (DE,NT,DE) are each responsible for "one-gap". This limited responsibility allows them to fire off and disrupt their gap. Two-gap defensive linemen are anchors, with their job being to hold their ground and read/react to the offensive linemen. The different responsibilities lend themselves to different players.
That is just my understanding, I could be wrong.
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Suntiger 
USA Fan
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
18374 posts
| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 5:23 pm to The Mick)
Parcells told him to.
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Patrick O Rly
New Orleans Saints Fan
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
25614 posts
| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 5:26 pm to WhistlingDixie)
Sounds good to me, but I'm just learning about the 3-4 myself.
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kclsufan
New Orleans Saints Fan
Show Me
Member since Jun 2008
10046 posts
| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 5:31 pm to Patrick O Rly)
Another point Payton himself made is that there's more 3-4 talent coming from the college ranks than 4-3 talent, so the switch in part was about recognizing that reality.
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landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
823 posts
| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 7:50 pm to infantry1026)
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Because SP is tired of not being able to find a decent 43 coordinator
It's also easier to find 3-4 OLB's than it is to find really good 4-3 DE's.
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landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
823 posts
| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 7:52 pm to Patrick O Rly)
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The 3-4 we're running is one gap (I think; I forget the difference between one gap and two gap) and ask the down linemen to penatrate and be disruptive, not simply hold their blocks to let the linebackers roam free
Wouldn't this be an even worse fit for Bunkley than him being the "big fat guy in the middle"?
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landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
823 posts
| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 7:59 pm to kclsufan)
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Another point Payton himself made is that there's more 3-4 talent coming from the college ranks than 4-3 talent, so the switch in part was about recognizing that reality
Never heard he said this, but it's a great point. It's mainly about pass rushers I think. The top pass rushing DE's in college seem to be getting smaller and more suited to play rush LB.
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Patrick O Rly
New Orleans Saints Fan
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
25614 posts
| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:01 pm to landrywasbeast30)
Hell, shite I don't know. I ain't gotta make these decisions! GET OFF MY BACK!
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landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
823 posts
| re: What's the main reason Payton is going with a 3-4? (Posted on 2/14/13 at 8:22 pm to Patrick O Rly)
Lol, didn't mean to put so much pressure on you.
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