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re: Anyone eat Paleo?

Posted on 2/8/13 at 6:10 am to
Posted by TinyTigerPaws
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/8/13 at 6:10 am to
Ohhh I'm not the one going Paleo. It is a nice goal, but don't think I could pull it off full-time.
Posted by Queen
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/8/13 at 9:03 am to
I'm still going to allow myself some cheese with eggs and stuff, but this dish looks a little far gone for paleo, you're right.

I did buy almond milk last night. Impressed with the shelf life, but it will definitely be an adjustment to cow milk.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/8/13 at 9:11 am to
Would I be wrong in guessing that french fries covered in brown garlic gravy are not in the Paleo regimen?
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63419 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 9:23 am to
Although I'm aware of the so called "Paleo diet", I've not read much detail. And as I suspected from the "get go", there is this:


"The paleolithic diet is a controversial topic amongst some dietitians[16][17] and anthropologists,[7][18] and an article on the National Health Service of the United Kingdom Choices website refers to it as a fad diet.[19] Critics have argued that if hunter-gatherer societies failed to suffer from "diseases of civilization", this was mostly due to reduced calories in their diet, shorter average lifespans, or a variety of other factors, rather than some special diet composition.[20] Some researchers have taken issue with the accuracy of the diet's underlying evolutionary logic.[20][21][22]

Also disputed are some dietary recommendations and restrictions on the grounds that they provide no health benefits or pose health risks[20][21] and are not likely to accurately reflect the features of ancient Paleolithic diets.[22][23]

A 2011 ranking by U.S. News & World Report, involving a panel of 22 experts, ranked the Paleo diet lowest of the 20 diets evaluated based on factors including health, weight-loss and ease of following.[24] These results were repeated in the 2012 survey, in which the diet tied with the Dukan diet for the lowest ranking out of 25 diets; U.S. News & World Report stated that their experts "took issue with the diet on every measure".[24] However, one expert involved in the ranking stated that a "true Paleo diet might be a great option: very lean, pure meats, lots of wild plants. The modern approximations… are far from it."[24] He added that "duplicating such a regimen in modern times would be difficult."[24]

Wellllll, no doubt meats and vegetables with absolutely no grain or potatoes or processed sugaars will cause weight loss in most people. But 1) I don't think it's necessary to completely abstain from grains, potatoes, etc., in order to eat healthy and maintain a good body weight with muscle mass and low body fat; 2) the anti-wheat (gluten) hysteria is waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy out of control (approx. 1% of the population has any measurable reaction to wheat, grains, gluten, etc) and 3) I'd like to know a little more from reliable sources about the anthropological/biological/genetic underpinnings of the Paleo diet.

Not flaming at all. Just questioning.
This post was edited on 2/8/13 at 9:24 am
Posted by GRIZZ
PRAIRIEVILLE
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/8/13 at 9:48 am to
quote:

one of the easiest paleo recipes:

boston butt (bone in)
just enough crab boil to cover the bottom of the crock pot
put on high for 1 hr and then low for 4-5 (bone will come right out when finished)
drain juice and pull apart
eat


Sounds good. I think I'll try this.
Posted by Queen
Member since Nov 2009
3020 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 10:54 am to
quote:

Wellllll, no doubt meats and vegetables with absolutely no grain or potatoes or processed sugaars will cause weight loss in most people. But 1) I don't think it's necessary to completely abstain from grains, potatoes, etc., in order to eat healthy and maintain a good body weight with muscle mass and low body fat; 2) the anti-wheat (gluten) hysteria is waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy out of control (approx. 1% of the population has any measurable reaction to wheat, grains, gluten, etc) and 3) I'd like to know a little more from reliable sources about the anthropological/biological/genetic underpinnings of the Paleo diet.



I agree that the gluten thing is overblown, because only those with celiac disease absolutely can't tolerate it.

And the paleo diet is a relatively new diet. It hasn't been popular that long, so there isn't as much info. That said, what's been recommended to me is 80-20 Paleo. Basically you're not completely cutting out dairy/grains and stuff, but reducing it a lot.

Also, carbs are not totally off limits, you just have to reduce them. Like potatoes are OK, sweet potatoes are better.
Posted by emboslice
Member since Dec 2012
4519 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 11:06 am to
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I did buy almond milk last night. Impressed with the shelf life, but it will definitely be an adjustment to cow milk.


Just gulped down a big glass! Try to remember that this is the new "cow's milk" for you (for now). It's easier to just not compare them and to learn to love the almond milk. It's like getting a new SO
Posted by Queen
Member since Nov 2009
3020 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:04 pm to
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It's like getting a new SO


My fiance' would hate to hear that.

I'm also going to try coconut milk. Seems I can make ice cream with it, according to Pinterest!
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
42817 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

Skinny Taste - Cheesy Spaghetti Squash


definitely gonna have to pin that one onto my low carb board
Posted by iluvdatiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2004
42817 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 12:41 pm to
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Height: 5'3"
Weight: 115(ish


The last time I weighed 115 was in college and people would tell me I was skinny. In Jan 2012 I started my eat better lifestyle at a miserable 150. By July I was down to 130. took a break from July to Dec, gained 5 pounds, started back on my healthy eating Jan 2nd. New goal is 115 aka "skinny weight"!
Posted by emboslice
Member since Dec 2012
4519 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 3:24 pm to
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I'm also going to try coconut milk. Seems I can make ice cream with it, according to Pinterest


Well if it turns out okay, please share the recipe. I can't pass up some good ice cream!
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 3:44 pm to
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Queen



quote:

Thoughts? Recipes? Suggestions


I know I'm late to the thread, I will say I've found a lot of recipes online that actually suggest a grocery list so you can get more protein rich meals for the buck

meal plans
grocery list

you can find descent coconut water at a mexican market for less that whole foods

This post was edited on 2/8/13 at 3:57 pm
Posted by Queen
Member since Nov 2009
3020 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 3:57 pm to
Better late than never. Those links are helpful. I'm most concerned about the cost for me. We recently bought a lot of shrimp, tilapia and beef at Costco, although none is grass-fed.

I'm currently enjoying my last peanut butter smoothie before lent. Maybe almond butter will suffice...
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 2/8/13 at 4:01 pm to
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We recently bought a lot of shrimp, tilapia and beef at Costco, although none is grass-fed.


use lent and the protein you have to get used to the paleo regiment you can worry about the specifics once the lifstyle is comfortable. I lean on frozen veggies and meats for budgetary reasons, works OK.
Posted by Drew Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
21577 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 6:53 pm to
I might have to do a vegan/vegetarian hybrid. The thought of no meat it ok but adding eggs and fish on top of it is torture. Ha
Posted by emboslice
Member since Dec 2012
4519 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 8:04 pm to
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I might have to do a vegan/vegetarian hybrid. The thought of no meat it ok but adding eggs and fish on top of it is torture. Ha


Set reachable goals. I'd say the hybrid or even just vegetarian is still a great sacrifice! Do whatever you're comfortable with.
Posted by Drew Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
21577 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 8:28 am to
Are you allowed to drink while vegan?
Posted by Delacroix
Member since Oct 2008
3985 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 9:06 am to
I know I'm extremely late to this thread, but I pretty much skimmed through it.

I have been doing paleo once a year for the past 3 years now. I typically start in December and go through May (my "cutting" phase). Then during the summer I still eat healthy, but just less strict. I've seen really great results from it. Last year I lost 20 pounds and got under 10% body fat. This year I haven't been too strict but I plan on turning it up for lent. Thanks for those websites on the first couple of pages
This post was edited on 2/13/13 at 9:07 am
Posted by emboslice
Member since Dec 2012
4519 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 9:20 am to
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Are you allowed to drink while vegan?


Yep... if you want to. I don't drink very often but I'm not afraid to get a little tipsy if I'm in the mood for it. If you want my personal opinion, if you are looking for health benefits from your diet, cutting back on alcohol is important. Everything in moderation. Like I said before, do whatever feels comfortable for your body.

Good luck to both you and Queen!

Btw, I decided to break out my five finger shoes (usually run in Brooks) for my running for a while. A more "ancestral workout" as you suggested closer to page 1. It's more like running barefoot, in case you aren't familiar with them.
Posted by Drew Orleans
Member since Mar 2010
21577 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 9:59 am to
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