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I Just Want to Make a Couple of Things Clear

Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:48 am
Posted by brewhan davey
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:48 am
1. LSU is in the SEC and is there to stay.

Both of Mr. Rabalais' articles in the Advocate were only meant to provide a 2-part series addressing the hypothetical arguments for both staying and leaving. However, because they came out a day apart, and the more taboo subject of leaving the SEC came out first, an uproar ensued among our fan base and throughout the other fan bases on this site.

That being said, the articles were unnecessary IMO, and have led the better majority of this board and the SEC rant to focus mainly on the first article, as to construe it as the voice of all LSU fans glorifying Alabama and whining about how life isn't fair for us.

LSU is a founding SEC member, and has too big of a following to abruptly leave its roots. Because of recent success, both internally at LSU and throughout the rest of the conference, an aura of greatness has been associated with the SEC, thus giving more credibility to the conference and allowing more room for error with regards to blemishes on our record. Essentially, the SEC has been given an "automatic bid" to the MNC with all its recent success. Not only has this helped establishing a brand of football that the rest of the country envies, but it has also helped in areas such as recruiting, in that star high school players from across the country strive to play in the best conference in the nation.

It would make no sense to leave the situation we are in.

2. "Dynasties" are cyclical in nature.

Those of you who consistently whine about Alabama, for a variety of reasons, while at the same time complain about how LSU is "second-fiddle," need to understand that success doesn't last forever.

It will be difficult for ANY coach to step and and replace Les Miles AND/OR Nick Saban. Because both coaches are nearing the age of retirement, the level of dominance sustained by both programs in the last few years will inevitably come to an end (though, not necessarily for a long period of time).

Exhibit A: Florida the few years after Spurrier.
Exhibit B: Alabama the few years after Bryant.

Point is, we can make all the excuses we want, the upper echelon of SEC teams will rotate soon enough, and our level of hate will rotate toward those teams that surface to the top.

This post was edited on 12/26/12 at 10:58 am
Posted by T1gerWonder
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Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:51 am to
Posted by YouAre8Up
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Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:53 am to
excellent post!
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76719 posts
Posted on 12/26/12 at 11:05 am to
Why do we have to be rational? We're just fans of an amateur football team on an anonymous Internet message board with nothing else to do. Nothing we say here matters.
Posted by dandan
Member since Nov 2007
4363 posts
Posted on 12/26/12 at 11:05 am to
If LSU had a real AD we wouldn't even begin to discuss this stuff.

He allowed the league to get away with the shitty 2013 scheduling as well as let them protect others teams in bowls this year which left LSU in a lesser bowl.
Posted by NorthTiger
Upper 40
Member since Jan 2004
3845 posts
Posted on 12/26/12 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

brewhan davey


Would you please just post a daily blog. Excellent post, as usual.
Posted by justmebeno
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 12/26/12 at 12:14 pm to
You sir are correct!
Posted by Random LSU Hero
2014 NFL Survivor Champion (17-0)
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/26/12 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

brewhan davey


tl;dr


its not you, its me
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Posted on 12/26/12 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by BrerTiger
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Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 12/26/12 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Both of Mr. Rabalais' articles in the Advocate were only meant to provide a 2-part series addressing the hypothetical arguments for both staying and leaving.


Link?

If this is what The Advocate meant to do, then they communicated this very, very poorly.

They should have done it the way USA Today does with the opposing viewpoints on opposite pages or opposite sides of the same page.

Regardless, Rabalais' article is complete garbage. If the Big 12 was so fricking awesome, then why did A&M leave? He wants to escape the shadow of Bama by moving into the shadow of Texas and league offices in Dallas? We would just replace A&M as the crybaby whiny bitches of the Big XII. Also Rabalais doesn't even consider writing his crybaby bitchfest of an article if LSU finished our final drive off with a touchdown instead of another field goal attempt after 3 straight runs that went nowhere. The REC isn't to blame for that loss. We had our shot and didn't finish them off. Spilled milk. In Rabalais' case, spilled mama's titty milk.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4955 posts
Posted on 12/26/12 at 2:07 pm to
In my mind this has nothing to do with Alabama; it has to do with what is fair to all parties involved. There is no reason to continue the traditional opponent crap. Alabama does not get off easy by Tennessee who happens to be down right now. LSU and Florida are both in tough playing each other. Likewise for Georgia and Auburn. The problem lies with Ole Miss, Miss. State, Kentucky, and Vandy having "easier" traditional opponents. The jury is out on A&M and Missouri. Every team should play the teams in their division and two from the other division on a rotating basis. If Bama and Tenn and Georgia and Auburn want to maintain these games on a yearly basis then they simply will not count as SEC games when they are "out of the regular rotation." This seems quite easy to do and should be done. LSU should not leave the SEC.
Posted by LSUsCRYSTALball
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/26/12 at 2:52 pm to
Great post Brewhan
Posted by OleWar
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/26/12 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

LSU is a founding SEC member, and has too big of a following to abruptly leave its roots


I think you make a great and obvious argument and don't think we have to leave the SEC, but when I start hearing about roots, history, and tradition, I just want to throw my hands up in the air. The goal should be to create match ups and schedules that are relevant and equitable to the country as a whole. The rest of the country may envy the SEC, but this is because inequities have been created, and there is little transparency into how the conferences operate, especially the SEC. If in a given season you don't play all the teams in your conference then what is the point. The SEC has been great when being innovative, ie the Championship Game, but stupid with promoting or allowing ideas of traditional rivalries, and developing these ridiculous bowl relationships.
Posted by Papa Tigah
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Member since Sep 2007
18547 posts
Posted on 12/26/12 at 5:56 pm to
Should be the post of the year.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70974 posts
Posted on 12/26/12 at 7:22 pm to
Solid post

LTH
Posted by putt23
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Posted on 12/26/12 at 7:38 pm to
post=legit
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 12/26/12 at 7:40 pm to
OP...too logical, please rethink talking points.
Posted by Paul Allen
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/26/12 at 9:25 pm to
tl;dr
Posted by jdaute2
lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2012
1818 posts
Posted on 12/26/12 at 9:31 pm to
They were in the same paper that i read. The leaving article was on the cover of the sports page and the staying was pg 2-3 of the sports section.
Posted by TigerDice
Canton, OH
Member since Nov 2012
258 posts
Posted on 12/26/12 at 10:02 pm to
Only a fool is compelled to state the obvious.
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