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thank god for the big ten.
i almost feel sorry for uconn.
this all the fault of the providence mob that went out of its way to cater to the catholic basketball school for so long instead of being proactive in the conference expansion game.
i almost feel sorry for uconn.
this all the fault of the providence mob that went out of its way to cater to the catholic basketball school for so long instead of being proactive in the conference expansion game.
re: 7 Big East basketball schools leavingPosted by threeputt on 12/13/12 at 11:10 am to Sophandros
I dont blame them for wanting to leave either ... I am sure they feel about the same as tulane fans felt with what was left of cusa
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I dont blame them for wanting to leave either
This is their own damn fault for blocking the football side of things from getting better for years.
If they'd allowed the football side to expand years ago, they'd have gotten decent-good basketball schools like Memphis while possibly retaining Syracuse and Pitt.
re: 7 Big East basketball schools leavingPosted by rocket31 on 12/13/12 at 2:38 pm to KosmoCramer
what happens to cincy?
they go independent, ACC, Big12?
they go independent, ACC, Big12?
re: 7 Big East basketball schools leavingPosted by KosmoCramer on 12/13/12 at 2:40 pm to rocket31
It would have to be Big 12 or independent. They are about to get left out of this whole thing probably though.
re: 7 Big East basketball schools leavingPosted by rocket31 on 12/13/12 at 2:44 pm to KosmoCramer
their TV market is pretty strong though, idk.
re: 7 Big East basketball schools leavingPosted by saintsfan22 on 12/13/12 at 2:48 pm to teke184
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This is their own damn fault for blocking the football side of things from getting better for years.
If they'd allowed the football side to expand years ago, they'd have gotten decent-good basketball schools like Memphis while possibly retaining Syracuse and Pitt.
Like who? Big East football was dying once Miami and VT left years before realignment went crazy.
re: 7 Big East basketball schools leavingPosted by Buckeye Backer on 12/13/12 at 3:36 pm to saintsfan22
The 7 basketball members should join with A10+Creighton and form a 23 team conference. The good news is that because the 7 teams are dissolving the conference, they can keep the Big East name and rebrand it as a basketball only power. Split the conference into two divisions. Keep the former BE schools together plus the Philly schools to get 11 and Keep the former A10 schools together plus Creighton. I think they could totally make it work. Hell, the Big East already has like 20 members. At least this alignment would be a stable basketball only conference with the Big East name on it.
Big East:
(A)
Georgetown
Villanova
Marquette
St Johns
Seton Hall
Providence
DePaul
Temple
St Joes
Fordham
La Salle
(B)
Creighton
Butler
VCU
Xavier
Dayton
UMass
Richmond
Rhode Island
Duquesne
George Washington
Saint Louis
St Bonaventure
What divison would be better...id say B?
Big East:
(A)
Georgetown
Villanova
Marquette
St Johns
Seton Hall
Providence
DePaul
Temple
St Joes
Fordham
La Salle
(B)
Creighton
Butler
VCU
Xavier
Dayton
UMass
Richmond
Rhode Island
Duquesne
George Washington
Saint Louis
St Bonaventure
What divison would be better...id say B?
This post was edited on 12/13 at 3:40 pm
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re: 7 Big East basketball schools leavingPosted by TigerintheNO on 12/13/12 at 3:50 pm to Buckeye Backer
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The good news is that because the 7 teams are dissolving the conference,
If they disolve the conference Notre Dame doesn't have to pay the exit fee.
re: 7 Big East basketball schools leavingPosted by Buckeye Backer on 12/13/12 at 3:54 pm to TigerintheNO
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If they disolve the conference Notre Dame doesn't have to pay the exit fee.
At this point who cares really? Since the 7 baskeball only schools are the majority right now, they have to strike before July 1st when all the newest footall additions are formally added to the conference and then making them the minority. If they dissolve the conference, the 7 basketball members could keep the name Big East which would be VERY smart for marketing. The A10 schools should look at this in a positive way! Nothing against the A10, but the name Big East is a monster name in basketball.
This post was edited on 12/13 at 3:56 pm
re: 7 Big East basketball schools leavingPosted by ProjectP2294 on 12/13/12 at 3:58 pm to Buckeye Backer
Why would Creighton have any interest in joining that league? And that large a conference is completely unwieldly.
re: 7 Big East basketball schools leavingPosted by Buckeye Backer on 12/13/12 at 4:02 pm to ProjectP2294
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And that large a conference is completely unwieldly
The Big East currently has like 20 members in ONE division. What is so crazy about this?
This post was edited on 12/13 at 4:04 pm
re: 7 Big East basketball schools leavingPosted by ProjectP2294 on 12/13/12 at 4:05 pm to Buckeye Backer
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The Big East currently has like 20 members in ONE division. What is so crazy about this?
The Big East currently has 15 teams. Not 20 or 23. And you didn't address the other part of my question.
re: 7 Big East basketball schools leavingPosted by Buckeye Backer on 12/13/12 at 4:06 pm to ProjectP2294
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Why would Creighton have any interest in joining that league?
Because the Big East name is wwwayyy bigger then the Missouri Valley Conference. A Big East/A10 merger would be a nice conference that would get multiple bids. The MVC is a one bid leauge with 2/3 teams in a great year. Joining that conference is a much better move then staying in the MVC.
re: 7 Big East basketball schools leavingPosted by Buckeye Backer on 12/13/12 at 4:09 pm to ProjectP2294
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The Big East currently has 15 teams
Only until July 1 before these ballers join!!
Temple
UCF
Memphis
Boise St
San Diego St
SMU
Houston
Tulane
This post was edited on 12/13 at 4:12 pm
re: 7 Big East basketball schools leavingPosted by saintsfan22 on 12/13/12 at 4:09 pm to Buckeye Backer
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At this point who cares really?
Everybody because they'd be giving away money.
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If they dissolve the conference, the 7 basketball members could keep the name Big East which would be VERY smart for marketing. The A10 schools should look at this in a positive way! Nothing against the A10, but the name Big East is a monster name in basketball.
Kind of but you ain't fooling anybody into thinking it's still the Big East without Syracuse, Pitt, UCONN, Louisville, and Cincy. It'd be a good conference but they'd lose a crap load of money just trying to keep the name.
This post was edited on 12/13 at 4:13 pm
re: 7 Big East basketball schools leavingPosted by Buckeye Backer on 12/13/12 at 4:14 pm to saintsfan22
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Kind of. You ain't fooling anybody into thinking it's still the Big East without Syracuse, Pitt, UCONN, Louisville, and Cincy. It'd be a good conference but they'd lose a crap load of money just trying to keep the name.
As opposed to staying in the current BE and playing in a conference with UCF, Houston, SMU, Memphis, Tulane, Boise St, San Diego St and Temple??? Come on lol! Id rather be in a league with basketball schools like Butler, Creighton, VCU, Xavier, Dayton and UMass over those schools. Dissolving and rebranding is the BEST way to go. Its the only way they can control their own future stability. Why be at the mercy of the football schools?
This post was edited on 12/13 at 4:16 pm
re: 7 Big East basketball schools leavingPosted by ProjectP2294 on 12/13/12 at 4:15 pm to Buckeye Backer
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The MVC is a one bid leauge with 2/3 teams in a great year.
They have a pretty good record of getting more than one team into the tourney on a consistent basis.
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Joining that conference is a much better move then staying in the MVC.
Joining a conference where their closest confernce mate is 470 miles away and fighting 22 other teams for a bid is better than their current situation?
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