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SPEEDY 
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:36 pm to Stingray)
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I performed a t test comparing the penalties called on LSU and Alabama during the regular season over the ten years from 2003 to 2012. I took the data of penalties each game from the official LSU and Alabama sites. Over this period each team played 118 games.
LSU's penalties per year goes like this: 89, 73, 74, 76, 76, 104, 74, 91, 67, 89.
Alabama's penalties per year: 48, 48, 63, 63, 48, 55, 70, 70, 66, 69.
LSU's average penalties per game is 6.8898.
Alabama's average penalties per game is 5.0847.
Using the t test comparing all the games, I get a p value of 0.0001! This means that there is certainly a difference between the penalties of these two teams. The important question is why?
I see two possible explanations.
1. Alabama is a more disciplined team. I find this to be highly unlikely as they would have to be more disciplined consistently of over a ten year period which included multiple different coaches on each team, including one coach who coached at both schools!
2. There is a bias for Alabama. This is much more likely. It would not take a conspiracy, just the subtle bias that is a result of the current structure of the SEC head offices. Also seems likely when we look at the other areas where Alabama seems to have created an advantage for itself.
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Maize&BlueTiger 
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Chahlston, y'all.
Member since Nov 2012
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:38 pm to Stingray)
How does the comparison work when it's 'Bama vs. Auburn. Or Tennessee. Or Mississippi State? Is it a pro-Bama bias or an anti-LSU bias?
Your data is insufficient to justify any conclusion.
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TexasTiger1185
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New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:41 pm to jrodLSUke)
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lsusteve1
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:44 pm to TexasTiger1185)
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This suggests that we aren't as disciplined and play more aggressive football. Which, contrary to your belief, is actually more likely than a bias towards alabama.
So why did Saban coached LSU teams commit much more penalties than the ones at Bama?
I know a Bama fan would say "He's a better coach here than he was there".
It does raise eyebrows
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CalTiger53
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California
Member since Oct 2011
1157 posts
| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:51 pm to Stingray)
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Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias
Good morning, where have you been? NO Evidence needed, just use the eyeball test.
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Stingray
LSU Fan
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
3574 posts
| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:59 pm to CalTiger53)
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NO Evidence needed, just use the eyeball test.
Sorry, but after all the bs last year, i'm not a big fan of the eyeball test.
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ztraveler
LSU Fan
metairie, la
Member since Aug 2007
447 posts
| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 3:59 pm to LagdonCG)
NO " HOLDING " BY ALABAMA...
If you watch the replay Ala vs Ga. watch # 75 B. Jones...the center...he holds on every play..but is a Pro. at it...he holds for about 5 to 8 seconds and then lets go...when the running back is past him or when the QB throw the ball..
WATCH FOR YOURSELF
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GhostBuster6 
Alabama Fan
Nashville
Member since Jun 2012
1809 posts
| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:00 pm to Stingray)
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I performed a t test comparing the penalties called on LSU and Alabama during the regular
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tig3rbai7
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Member since Aug 2008
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:01 pm to CptBengal)
are you in my IE3302 class or something?
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ztraveler
LSU Fan
metairie, la
Member since Aug 2007
447 posts
| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:01 pm to ztraveler)
SUGGEST MOVING THE SEC OFFICE OUT OF ALABAMA.
MOVE IT TO EACH SCHOOL EVERY TWO YEARS
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ztraveler
LSU Fan
metairie, la
Member since Aug 2007
447 posts
| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:03 pm to ztraveler)
Does anyone have a list of the SEC Ref's and their home towns????
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MetryTyger
LSU Fan
Metairie, LA
Member since Jan 2004
6134 posts
| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:04 pm to Stingray)
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Stingray
Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias
Possibly the biggest understatement ever uttered by a living organism since the Big Bang, in this Galaxy or any other. I think it may have even been the 11th Commandment.....
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UncleLogger 
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Member since Jan 2008
2292 posts
| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:08 pm to Stingray)
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Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias
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Stingray
LSU Fan
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
3574 posts
| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:16 pm to CptBengal)
CptBengal, data should be in your email box.
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lsutigermall
LSU Fan
Battle Creek, Michigan
Member since Nov 2006
2081 posts
| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:30 pm to Stingray)
Nope
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ztraveler
LSU Fan
metairie, la
Member since Aug 2007
447 posts
| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:33 pm to Stingray)
So, when is the rest of the SEC teams going to have enough, with the Alabama Bios???
Texas A&M and Missouri should be warned....
Texas A&M beat Alabama and the Alabama Ref's also
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jrodLSUke
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:33 pm to TexasTiger1185)
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Which, contrary to your belief, is actually more likely than a bias towards alabama.
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TexasTiger1185
LSU Fan
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
6623 posts
| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:34 pm to lsusteve1)
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So why did Saban coached LSU teams commit much more penalties than the ones at Bama?
I know a Bama fan would say "He's a better coach here than he was there".
It does raise eyebrows
I'd say it probably has more to do with the players. When Saban was at LSU he was not this godlike figure where everything he said was gold going into the ears of his players.
Les Miles coached teams play with the emotion he puts out, it will lead to more penalties from time to time.
Let us also take injuries into account; how many starters were injured for how many games in those years? How many of those starters were O-Linemen. OL tends to get the most penalties throughout a season with holding/false start being most common.
Using statistics that intentionally prove a point you are trying to make isn't accurate. There are SO many things that go into this, some of which aren't even quantifiable (emotion).
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Statestreet
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Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
4948 posts
| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:35 pm to Stingray)
Love the stats... 
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MoreOrLes
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Member since Nov 2008
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 4:37 pm to TexasTiger1185)
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OL tends to get the most penalties throughout a season with holding/false start being most common.
Than why didnt bama have any in 09.
Sorry its just not possible.
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