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graychef 
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:12 pm to bayoujd)
Manziel is deserving because nobody else is. He had a historic season in the SEC.
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tiggerthetooth 
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:13 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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johnny football is the 2nd 3,000/1,000 QB in BCS conference history. that's kind of more than "Rare"
Vince Young was the last to do it in 2005 and he didn't win the Heisman and he was the first ever to do it.
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The Eric
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:14 pm to bayoujd)
He shouldn't get it but there really is t anyone else. Plus he has a nickname
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rocket31 
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:14 pm to acgeaux129)
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What the hell are you talking about?
...That the heisman doesnt always go to the *best* player? So therefore your "not even the best LB" argument doesnt hold much weight...
There are better players than Teo, of course, but that does not always matter for the Heisman. Heck, I think Louis Nix and Stephon Tuitt are better than Teo.
This post was edited on 11/25 at 8:16 pm
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acgeaux129
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:20 pm to rocket31)
It's supposed to go to CFB's most outstanding player. Y'all were posting some cocksucker mission statement about integrity the other day, but no one takes that shite seriously since Cam won it a couple years ago anyway.
Manziel put up a season with Heisman numbers and was called on to deliver for a pretty mediocre offense outside of his LT. He almost singlehandedly beat Alabama with a team that was tremendously overmatched.
Te'o is a great LB but did nothing special this year. The picks were rare but could be considered a statistical anomaly. That one OU pick he had late in the game was big, but Mathieu (bias aside) did shite like that all year last year.
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Eternalmajin
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:20 pm to rocket31)
That says a lot about what the Heisman has become then, if it doesn't matter if you're the best at your position for that year 
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rocket31
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:22 pm to Eternalmajin)
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That says a lot about what the Heisman has become then, if it doesn't matter if you're the best at your position for that year
...like last year?
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hehateme2285
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:22 pm to tiggerthetooth)
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Vince Young was the last to do it in 2005 and he didn't win the Heisman and he was the first ever to do it.
A little stronger of a year, wouldn't you agree? Reggie had all the highlights and type of plays a Heisman winner normally has
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SomeTigerFan
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:23 pm to graychef)
Marquise Lee or someone other than a QB please.
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SabiDojo 
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:23 pm to DollaChoppa)
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There is no one else.
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LSUSOBEAST1
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:25 pm to bayoujd)
Agreed but there is no one else.
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tiggerthetooth
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:28 pm to hehateme2285)
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A little stronger of a year, wouldn't you agree? Reggie had all the highlights and type of plays a Heisman winner normally has
Yeah I agree, I haven't cared about the Heisman since Matt Leinart won it, it really is an irrelevant award to how I see college football.
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VerlanderBEAST 
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:34 pm to acgeaux129)
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deliver for a pretty mediocre offense outside of his LT.
 do you actually watch football?
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GerryDinardo
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:35 pm to tiggerthetooth)
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Vince Young was the last to do it in 2005 and he didn't win the Heisman and he was the first ever to do it.
The guy who got ripped on the SEC Rant after claiming to not be a longhorn fan hops on the Manziel thread on the MSB with a post about Vince Young. Hmmm...
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SlowFlowPro 
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:35 pm to tiggerthetooth)
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Vince Young was the last to do it in 2005
and the first
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and he didn't win the Heisman
he was robbed, and the title game backed that up
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tiggerthetooth
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:37 pm to GerryDinardo)
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The guy who got ripped on the SEC Rant after claiming to not be a longhorn fan hops on the Manziel thread on the MSB with a post about Vince Young. Hmmm...
Considering the reference is completely relevant to this thread you are quite off base, and I think you also along with Titus, should find a life or new hobbies.
This post was edited on 11/25 at 8:39 pm
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bayoujd
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:38 pm to graychef)
South Carolina St, Southern Methodist, La Tech, and Sam Houston St are in the SEC? Those games account for 1/4 of his stats.
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tiggerthetooth
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:38 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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he was robbed, and the title game backed that up
Idk, I think Reggie was the best player and really he should have won it instead of Leinart, and then Vince could have won it the next, either way Reggie should have got a Heisman, its a shame Vince didn't, but oh well he got the MNC.
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SlowFlowPro
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:42 pm to tiggerthetooth)
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either way Reggie should have got a Heisman
no, he shouldn't have
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tiggerthetooth
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| re: Is Manziel really deserving of the Heisman? (Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:43 pm to SlowFlowPro)
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no, he shouldn't have
You don't think he was a phenomenal player in college? Take away his improper benefits from the equation, and you can't tell me Reggie Bush wasn't one of the most gifted if not the most gifted players in CFB.
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