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Motorboat 
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 4:22 pm to LSUballs)
I don't think he said that. Certainly some oil stays in as an "immersed liquid", and I would wager that eventually one could extract most of the oil through cooling and reheating.
ETA: emulsifier is the word I was looking for.
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LSUballs 
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 4:26 pm to Motorboat)
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I don't think he said that.
He said it mane. And you seemed to be agreeing with him.
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i disagree. say you make roux with a cup of oil. you will skim a cup of oil out.
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Motorboat
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 4:40 pm to LSUballs)
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And you seemed to be agreeing with him.
In theory, he is right. The damn oil is never converted to a soluble liquid by the fact that it cooked some flour. If you take out the meats containing oil and any stock making meats, and then add roux to plain water, I would bet that at least 90% of the oil could be skimmed from the top without advanced scientific equipment.
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Gris Gris
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 4:58 pm to LSUballs)
My roux doesn't separate in my kitchen. The only time oil is on top is after I add the meats. I don't take 7 cups of oil off gumbo when I've used 7 cups of oil for the roux. I know this because I use a measuring cup for the removed fat. Same one I used to measure the oil for the roux.
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OTIS2
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 5:07 pm to Gris Gris)
If you use okra, no skimming is required.Fact.
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Motorboat
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 5:08 pm to Gris Gris)
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I don't take 7 cups of oil off gumbo when I've used 7 cups of oil for the roux.
No shite. This is because some of the oil is emulsified in tiny oily bubbles in the water based stock.
Bottom line is that if you want to reduce the amount you skim, add less oil or fats. It's not that hard.
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LSUballs
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 5:14 pm to Motorboat)
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No shite. This is because some of the oil is emulsified in tiny oily bubbles in the water based stock.
I don't know where it goes. It may be emulsified in tiny bubbles for all I know. I just know it doesnt all sperate and come to the top as was the earlier argument that you seem to be supporting. Most of the oil you are on top comes out of the meat. The majority of the roux oil is up in the gumbo somewheres.
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Gris Gris
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 5:38 pm to Motorboat)
If wont reduce the amount I skim. My roux doesn't separate. If I didn't add meat, there'd be nothing to skim. That's the answer. Don't add meat and you won't have to skim.
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andouille
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 6:01 pm to Gris Gris)
I don't have time to read through 4 pages of posts, but the oil on gumbo issue is easy to solve. The vast majority of the oil come from the roux separating when you add cold or room temp stock. I always heat the stock, after browning the veggies in the roux pour the hot stock in SLOWLY, stirring to incorporate gradually.
Since I switched to the hot stock method I only have to skim the small amount from the andouille and chicken, in seafood gumbo there is no skimming at all.
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Catman88
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 6:18 pm to andouille)
Lol welcome to team catgrisandballs
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Gris Gris
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 6:19 pm to andouille)
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Since I switched to the hot stock method I only have to skim the small amount from the andouille and chicken, in seafood gumbo there is no skimming at all.
Exactly. The other 3 pages stem from a few guys who claim is you use 1 cup of oil in your roux, it will rise to the top and you will need to skim that off. One suggested using a dry roux if you don't wish to skim. The rest of us who know how to make gumbo pointed out that if made properly, the roux doesn't separate and the only skimming is due to the meats added. I've never skimmed seafood gumbo either.
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 7:54 pm to Gris Gris)
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gris gris
i'm back. had to go to the bar and drink. normally three beers then go home. tonight six because of catman. you see there is a silver lining in every dark cloud. i cannot believe we are still talking about this. a couple of day's ago their was a post chicken and andouille gumbo. i posted recipe on second page go look it up. also i asked gris gris if her pic of gumbo was from don's, which it was. i don't understand if you make such great gumbo why not post you're own pic. second you said you add thyme to gumbo. that is when i knew you have no clue. you said gumbo was from don's in lafayette. i asked if you knew ashby landry. he and his brother own dons there. i agree don's has the best gumbo. go to don's on airline in br. duke landry has been cooking gumbo there for forty years. tell him that you can make seafood gumbo without oil rising to the top and he will laugh in your face. also when you look at second page of this post you will see that i said you cannot get all the oil out. but i promise you can get around ninety percent out. ivars is going to have a gumbo cook off next month. i want you to sign up. we will go head to head. i want to taste your famous gumbo. i will post the date when i find out. now i'm going to get another beer from all this typing
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andouille
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 7:57 pm to hooper27)
Damn, did punctuation get expensive or something?
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LSUballs
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 7:59 pm to hooper27)
That was a weak attempt at trying to cover up your dumbassery.
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hooper27
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 8:04 pm to LSUballs)
i am terrible at typing. my secretary types my letters, and i'm a little drunk. i do apologize for that.
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OTIS2
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 8:08 pm to hooper27)
Damn, hoop. I'd love to see you after a 12 pack.
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rbdallas
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 8:08 pm to Catman88)
If I use chicken, I remove a lot of the oil after browning it, then continue with the rest..saves a lot of trouble and does not alter flavor..
There is usually still plenty of oil left.
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rbdallas
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 8:09 pm to hooper27)
which.. the secretary typing or the drunk..
no need for the drunk -lol
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hooper27
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 8:10 pm to rbdallas)
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otis
i'm almost there
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cssamerican 
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| re: Removing the oil from gumbo (Posted on 11/15/12 at 9:07 pm to hooper27)
Just put half the pot on the burner. Your pot will boil on one side and push the grease into one area. Then just scoop it out with a ladle or spoon.
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