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Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 8/14/12 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 8/14/12 at 5:58 pm
Whats some of the weirdest yall know?
Who do you think the hooded man is belle? It really wouldn't surprise me if it is actually Theon suffering from an alternate personality.
ETA: Saintsfan has been awesome enough to provide this ongoing list for us
Pgs1-50
quote:
Hooded Man=Theon reflection of himself
Hooded Man=Benjen
Hooded Man=Blackfish
Hooded Man=Harwin
Hooded Man=Jon
Hooded Man=Mance
Weirwood paste is people
Benjen is alive and fighting a shadow war
Benjen is dead
Benjen is undead and leading the Others
R+L=J and Howland Reed is the only one alive who knows
Varys also knows R+L=J somehow
R+L=/=J
Jon=Azor Ahai and Dany=Nissa Nissa
Jon=Azor Ahai and Arya=Nissa Nissa (not Lannister-esque love, tho)
Rhaegar=Azor Ahai, Lyana=Nissa Nissa, and Jon=Lightbringer
Ned=shite swordsman
Aegon=Blackfyre=Mummer's Dragon
Aegon=Illyrio's son
Jon will end up with Val at the end
Jon is alive, but it was Melisandre who had him killed so he would be reborn as AA
Jon is dead but will warg into other animals a la Orell
Brienne will allow Jamie to kill her so that Jamie can live (trial by combat)
Jaime will allow Brienne to kill him so that she can live
Pretty Merris=Brienne?
Jamie will kill Cersei
Sandor will kill Robert Strong
Arya will wreck shite with Nymeria and her pack in tow
Dany will sail East to attack Westeros from the West
Blackfish will reveal Sansa's true identity at her wedding and will reveal Littlefingers role in her fathers death
Rickon is running a crew of Cannibals...lol
3 Dragon Riders=Jon, Tyrion and Dany
3 Dragon Riders=Aegon, Tyrion, and Dany
Bran will warg into Jon's dragon
Lady Dustin is anti-stark
Lady Dustin is pro-stark and just putting on a front
Varys=Targaryan
Varys=Blackfyre
Tryion=Targaryan
Bloodraven is the person/thing training Bran
Bloodraven warged into the Raven at castle black to save Jon from the wight and helped get him elected Lord Snow
Bloodraven is evil as hell and training Bran to become the Great Other that Melisandre foresaw
Bran was the one who warged into the Raven that got Bran elected
The lone wolf dies but the pack survives=the remaining starks will be reunited soon
Tysha is alive in Braavos and has Tyrion's daughter
CottonwasKing has an acreboyish attraction to Arya
The Others and the Children are fighting in league with each other against the Andal invaders
Rhaegar was planning to overthrow his father during/after Robert's Rebellion
Euron traded his dragon egg to the faceless man to kill Balon Greyjoy
Ned Stark did not kill Arthur Dayne-hence his son being nicknamed Ned...
Who wrote the letter to Jon? Theon, Ramsey, Roose, Mance, Jon writing to Mance who is acting as Jon, the 1989 Denver Broncos?
Hodor!!!
Too many baby swaps for mortals to comprehend
Pgs 50-84
Jaime gets his sword hand revived by Thoros; becomes a bad-arse duel wielder
Robb will be revived with Grey Wind's head...
Brienne is a descendent of Dunk
Hodor is a descendent of Dunk
Hodor is not a Dunk-kin, but he has Giant's blood
Nan was a wildling from beyond the wall-that's how she knows so much about the north
Nan and Dunk did a little wink wink nudge nudge
Gregor is headless
Gregor is a frankenstein with someone elses head
Gregor has Robb's head
Hooded Man=Hallis Mollen
Dany has the bloody flux and will die (Bluegrass' wish)
The wall will fall and the wildlings will flood the North (aren't they already on this side of the wall?)
Sam ends up as Maester of Nights Watch
Sam ends up as Maester in Kings Landing
Sam has the horn that can destroy the wall
Tons of speculation on who will rule what in the end
Sandor is the Valonqar-him killing Gregor causes Cersei's death
Sandor will beat Gregor but Cersei will escape somehow; Jaime will hunt her down and deliver the Kings justice
Littlefinger and Varys will ally to help Aegon
Littlefinger has the sword Blackfyre hidden in some tapestries
Jon=Night's King returned
Bran=Azor Ahai and will warg into a dragon (...ok)
R+L=J...but the R is Robert
Jaqen is in the Citadel and is trying to find out how to hatch the dragon egg he got from Euron
Here are my findings today (page 85-110):
3 Queens=Margery, Cersei and Melisandre
Alleras was sent to Old Town by Doran to acquire dragon eggs for use in alliance with Dany
Alleras is just following Oberyn's footsteps and has no real plan
Alleras is investigating what the Maesters are up to...
The Maesters will side with the Others
Alleras isn't after a dragon egg but knowledge on how to train dragons which would be more useful to Dany...
Tarly will side with Aegon
Ser Barriston will die fighting the embodiment of Winter as no normal person left could defeat him
A lot of talk about a re-read thread...but it appears that thread died long ago
This thread is a lazy river that eventually runs into an 180ft waterfall on occasion
ASOIAF is a lazy river that eventually runs into a 180ft waterfall on occasion
Samwell's death will potentially be the most gut-wrenching in the series-can a man still be brave if he's afraid?
Something isn't IN Littlefinger's tapestries, but ON them
Bran will turn bad, but will redeem himself somehow
The Others=Creatures of the forest (...evolution? laying with giants?)
Brandon Stark received a letter from Lyana describing her and Rhaegars love but he either dismissed it as Rhaegar's writing or as a slap in the face to the Starks
Arya is the Volonqar-androgynous term (I so want Arya or Jamie to kill Cersei)
Varys lied to Aerys about Rhaegar's plotting to cause disruption in the seven kingdoms
Jon is a descendent of Bael the Bard
Jon is Arya's Nissa Nissa-Stick him with the pointy end
A dragon is sleeping beneath winterfell-source of warm water wells
There is a dragon egg near the wall that is white with red specks-referring to Jon's dragon?
There is a dragon inside the Wall and will wake when the horn blows and the wall falls fulfilling two prophecies/legends in one fell swoop
Who do you think the hooded man is belle? It really wouldn't surprise me if it is actually Theon suffering from an alternate personality.
ETA: Saintsfan has been awesome enough to provide this ongoing list for us
Pgs1-50
quote:
Hooded Man=Theon reflection of himself
Hooded Man=Benjen
Hooded Man=Blackfish
Hooded Man=Harwin
Hooded Man=Jon
Hooded Man=Mance
Weirwood paste is people
Benjen is alive and fighting a shadow war
Benjen is dead
Benjen is undead and leading the Others
R+L=J and Howland Reed is the only one alive who knows
Varys also knows R+L=J somehow
R+L=/=J
Jon=Azor Ahai and Dany=Nissa Nissa
Jon=Azor Ahai and Arya=Nissa Nissa (not Lannister-esque love, tho)
Rhaegar=Azor Ahai, Lyana=Nissa Nissa, and Jon=Lightbringer
Ned=shite swordsman
Aegon=Blackfyre=Mummer's Dragon
Aegon=Illyrio's son
Jon will end up with Val at the end
Jon is alive, but it was Melisandre who had him killed so he would be reborn as AA
Jon is dead but will warg into other animals a la Orell
Brienne will allow Jamie to kill her so that Jamie can live (trial by combat)
Jaime will allow Brienne to kill him so that she can live
Pretty Merris=Brienne?
Jamie will kill Cersei
Sandor will kill Robert Strong
Arya will wreck shite with Nymeria and her pack in tow
Dany will sail East to attack Westeros from the West
Blackfish will reveal Sansa's true identity at her wedding and will reveal Littlefingers role in her fathers death
Rickon is running a crew of Cannibals...lol
3 Dragon Riders=Jon, Tyrion and Dany
3 Dragon Riders=Aegon, Tyrion, and Dany
Bran will warg into Jon's dragon
Lady Dustin is anti-stark
Lady Dustin is pro-stark and just putting on a front
Varys=Targaryan
Varys=Blackfyre
Tryion=Targaryan
Bloodraven is the person/thing training Bran
Bloodraven warged into the Raven at castle black to save Jon from the wight and helped get him elected Lord Snow
Bloodraven is evil as hell and training Bran to become the Great Other that Melisandre foresaw
Bran was the one who warged into the Raven that got Bran elected
The lone wolf dies but the pack survives=the remaining starks will be reunited soon
Tysha is alive in Braavos and has Tyrion's daughter
CottonwasKing has an acreboyish attraction to Arya
The Others and the Children are fighting in league with each other against the Andal invaders
Rhaegar was planning to overthrow his father during/after Robert's Rebellion
Euron traded his dragon egg to the faceless man to kill Balon Greyjoy
Ned Stark did not kill Arthur Dayne-hence his son being nicknamed Ned...
Who wrote the letter to Jon? Theon, Ramsey, Roose, Mance, Jon writing to Mance who is acting as Jon, the 1989 Denver Broncos?
Hodor!!!
Too many baby swaps for mortals to comprehend
Pgs 50-84
Jaime gets his sword hand revived by Thoros; becomes a bad-arse duel wielder
Robb will be revived with Grey Wind's head...
Brienne is a descendent of Dunk
Hodor is a descendent of Dunk
Hodor is not a Dunk-kin, but he has Giant's blood
Nan was a wildling from beyond the wall-that's how she knows so much about the north
Nan and Dunk did a little wink wink nudge nudge
Gregor is headless
Gregor is a frankenstein with someone elses head
Gregor has Robb's head
Hooded Man=Hallis Mollen
Dany has the bloody flux and will die (Bluegrass' wish)
The wall will fall and the wildlings will flood the North (aren't they already on this side of the wall?)
Sam ends up as Maester of Nights Watch
Sam ends up as Maester in Kings Landing
Sam has the horn that can destroy the wall
Tons of speculation on who will rule what in the end
Sandor is the Valonqar-him killing Gregor causes Cersei's death
Sandor will beat Gregor but Cersei will escape somehow; Jaime will hunt her down and deliver the Kings justice
Littlefinger and Varys will ally to help Aegon
Littlefinger has the sword Blackfyre hidden in some tapestries
Jon=Night's King returned
Bran=Azor Ahai and will warg into a dragon (...ok)
R+L=J...but the R is Robert
Jaqen is in the Citadel and is trying to find out how to hatch the dragon egg he got from Euron
Here are my findings today (page 85-110):
3 Queens=Margery, Cersei and Melisandre
Alleras was sent to Old Town by Doran to acquire dragon eggs for use in alliance with Dany
Alleras is just following Oberyn's footsteps and has no real plan
Alleras is investigating what the Maesters are up to...
The Maesters will side with the Others
Alleras isn't after a dragon egg but knowledge on how to train dragons which would be more useful to Dany...
Tarly will side with Aegon
Ser Barriston will die fighting the embodiment of Winter as no normal person left could defeat him
A lot of talk about a re-read thread...but it appears that thread died long ago
This thread is a lazy river that eventually runs into an 180ft waterfall on occasion
ASOIAF is a lazy river that eventually runs into a 180ft waterfall on occasion
Samwell's death will potentially be the most gut-wrenching in the series-can a man still be brave if he's afraid?
Something isn't IN Littlefinger's tapestries, but ON them
Bran will turn bad, but will redeem himself somehow
The Others=Creatures of the forest (...evolution? laying with giants?)
Brandon Stark received a letter from Lyana describing her and Rhaegars love but he either dismissed it as Rhaegar's writing or as a slap in the face to the Starks
Arya is the Volonqar-androgynous term (I so want Arya or Jamie to kill Cersei)
Varys lied to Aerys about Rhaegar's plotting to cause disruption in the seven kingdoms
Jon is a descendent of Bael the Bard
Jon is Arya's Nissa Nissa-Stick him with the pointy end
A dragon is sleeping beneath winterfell-source of warm water wells
There is a dragon egg near the wall that is white with red specks-referring to Jon's dragon?
There is a dragon inside the Wall and will wake when the horn blows and the wall falls fulfilling two prophecies/legends in one fell swoop
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 8/14/12 at 6:10 pm to CottonWasKing
Damn, Theon aint dead? I thought they kilt his arse!
Posted on 8/14/12 at 6:11 pm to CottonWasKing
I was going to start this if you didn't cause I'm itching to talk about it.
RE: Theon and the Hooded Man
I think it's possible that it could be Theon seeing himself. But the one thing that doesn't past the smell test with that is the Hooded Man calls him a Kinslayer. We know that Theon didn't slay his "kin" Bran or Rickon.
So that leads me to believe the Hooded Man is either a Stark or Stark supporter. I'd throw my guess in that it could be Benjen Stark (I read somewhere that Martin debunked that he was Coldhands) since "A Stark Must Always be in Winterfell" and I think someone has entered through the crypts.
RE: Theon and the Hooded Man
I think it's possible that it could be Theon seeing himself. But the one thing that doesn't past the smell test with that is the Hooded Man calls him a Kinslayer. We know that Theon didn't slay his "kin" Bran or Rickon.
So that leads me to believe the Hooded Man is either a Stark or Stark supporter. I'd throw my guess in that it could be Benjen Stark (I read somewhere that Martin debunked that he was Coldhands) since "A Stark Must Always be in Winterfell" and I think someone has entered through the crypts.
Posted on 8/14/12 at 6:26 pm to CottonWasKing
Some of the other theories I've seen that's crazy and/or intriguing:
- The Weirwood paste that Bran eats to awaken his latent Weirwood seeing late in ADwD is actually made up of some of Jojen Reed. If you recall, Jojen is currently unable to be found and was pretty sick when they arrived at the caves. There's a lot of descriptions of the paste tasting like blood, looking veiny, and etc. I figure it either has parts of someone in it or is a representation that the Weirwoods are "alive".
Here's a pretty big thread on it:
LINK
- That Jon's parents are Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen (pretty much gospel in most parts these days)
- That Jon will be Azor Ahai reborn.
- That Dany could potentially be Jon's Nissa Nissa when it's all said and done.
For those who are wondering WTF Azor Ahai and Nissa Nissa are you can read here:
LINK
- The Weirwood paste that Bran eats to awaken his latent Weirwood seeing late in ADwD is actually made up of some of Jojen Reed. If you recall, Jojen is currently unable to be found and was pretty sick when they arrived at the caves. There's a lot of descriptions of the paste tasting like blood, looking veiny, and etc. I figure it either has parts of someone in it or is a representation that the Weirwoods are "alive".
Here's a pretty big thread on it:
LINK
- That Jon's parents are Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen (pretty much gospel in most parts these days)
- That Jon will be Azor Ahai reborn.
- That Dany could potentially be Jon's Nissa Nissa when it's all said and done.
For those who are wondering WTF Azor Ahai and Nissa Nissa are you can read here:
LINK
Posted on 8/14/12 at 6:58 pm to CottonWasKing
Hooded man? I've read all five books buy for some reason I'm forgetting about this.
Posted on 8/14/12 at 7:23 pm to CottonWasKing
The hooded man is either the Blackfish, Benjen Stark, or some Stark household soldier.
Posted on 8/14/12 at 10:25 pm to CottonWasKing
Replying to the OP simply to save for as soon as I finish ADWD (32% on Kindle) so I can come back and have my face melted off by all the shite I missed....
And because I've watched this thing go ludicrous speed to 6 pages in like a couple of hours.
How the hell does that happen in a book thread?? Especially a 5000 page series where the most recent book came out months ago
Winter must be coming yo....
And because I've watched this thing go ludicrous speed to 6 pages in like a couple of hours.
How the hell does that happen in a book thread?? Especially a 5000 page series where the most recent book came out months ago
Winter must be coming yo....
Posted on 8/20/12 at 9:35 pm to CottonWasKing
Has no one asked themselves why Tyrion looks so different from the rest of the Lannisters? Doesnt GRRM bring out the bloodline history several times to point out that all Lannisters have blond hair and blue eyes? Yet Tyrion has dark hair and violet eyes in the book? Can it be possible that Tyrion was actually the mad kings son, conceived through a rape or maybe an illicit affair? Could that be big reason Tywin took his family away from kings landing and kept them at casterly rock and why Tywin betrayed the mad king?
Posted on 9/13/12 at 1:45 am to CottonWasKing
Hot Damn I literally JUST finished the epilogue of ADWD.
But now I have to wait YEARS for the next book.
I've been dying to come back and read this thread. I know some of this may already be covered, but I have to post my initial impressions right away before going back and reading the 80+ pages of all kinds of shite I've never considered
First, the OPs question about the hooded man. Interesting thought about being Theon himself, but doesn't the raven from Ramsey to Jon basically say that it's Mance?
It makes perfect sense. He was sent to find Arya, and had women with him. Plus, how else would Ramsey know that Mance was still alive anyway unless he was there?? Part of me thinks Ramsey is lying and he lost Winterfell, but somehow found out about Mance being the singer, likely by capturing one of the women and flaying her till she talked.
But what has been bothering me for 2000 pages, since the damn Prologue of FFC, that I'm hoping MTVB can shed light on, is who was the hooded man in Oldtown, and what did he trick Pate into stealing for him before killing him???
Been driving me crazy and pisses me off it hasn't been addresed unless I just missed it??? The whole long arse prologue was about this damn Pate who dies at the end of the chapter, but we still don't have any more information on what he took from the maesters lockbox or who eventually killed him and took it from him.
That is weak. Can any of you experts address this for me??
Also, why exactly did the Watch feel that they had to do what they did to Jon?? He specifically made it so that no brothers had to break their oaths. Was it because they felt he was a deserter and his punishment had to be death?? I just don't think Edd and the others would jump to such a drastic measure before he even actually did anything. What am I missing about their motivations/intentions??
Can't wait to read responses and this question and also go back and read the whole thread.
And Barristan Selmy
But now I have to wait YEARS for the next book.
I've been dying to come back and read this thread. I know some of this may already be covered, but I have to post my initial impressions right away before going back and reading the 80+ pages of all kinds of shite I've never considered
First, the OPs question about the hooded man. Interesting thought about being Theon himself, but doesn't the raven from Ramsey to Jon basically say that it's Mance?
It makes perfect sense. He was sent to find Arya, and had women with him. Plus, how else would Ramsey know that Mance was still alive anyway unless he was there?? Part of me thinks Ramsey is lying and he lost Winterfell, but somehow found out about Mance being the singer, likely by capturing one of the women and flaying her till she talked.
But what has been bothering me for 2000 pages, since the damn Prologue of FFC, that I'm hoping MTVB can shed light on, is who was the hooded man in Oldtown, and what did he trick Pate into stealing for him before killing him???
Been driving me crazy and pisses me off it hasn't been addresed unless I just missed it??? The whole long arse prologue was about this damn Pate who dies at the end of the chapter, but we still don't have any more information on what he took from the maesters lockbox or who eventually killed him and took it from him.
That is weak. Can any of you experts address this for me??
Also, why exactly did the Watch feel that they had to do what they did to Jon?? He specifically made it so that no brothers had to break their oaths. Was it because they felt he was a deserter and his punishment had to be death?? I just don't think Edd and the others would jump to such a drastic measure before he even actually did anything. What am I missing about their motivations/intentions??
Can't wait to read responses and this question and also go back and read the whole thread.
And Barristan Selmy
This post was edited on 9/13/12 at 2:03 am
Posted on 10/15/12 at 2:20 pm to CottonWasKing
Almost done with Dance with Dragons. I have more questions than answers now. Has there been any in-depth discussion somewhere about the Others and what is actually coming from the North, their motivation, etc, etc, etc?
Posted on 10/17/12 at 4:35 pm to CottonWasKing
Posted on 10/25/12 at 12:59 pm to CottonWasKing
Ok...so during my re-read of ADWD, I noticed something. Now, given what I've read in this thread, I'm sure some of yall may have picked up on this but I just did.
So I just read a Tyrion chapter where he is on the Selaesori Qhoran sailing to Mereen w/ Moqorro and Jorah.
Tyrion is sitting w/ Moqorro by the fire one night and he asks what the translation of Qhoran is...then Selaesori.
Moqorro says that Qhoran means "steward" or "magister" and Selaesori means "fragrant" or "flowery" so Tyrion starts calling the ship the Stinky Steward.
So that got me thinking....is this the "perfumed seneschal" that Dany should beware? And if it is, who should she beware of?
Thoughts?
So I just read a Tyrion chapter where he is on the Selaesori Qhoran sailing to Mereen w/ Moqorro and Jorah.
Tyrion is sitting w/ Moqorro by the fire one night and he asks what the translation of Qhoran is...then Selaesori.
Moqorro says that Qhoran means "steward" or "magister" and Selaesori means "fragrant" or "flowery" so Tyrion starts calling the ship the Stinky Steward.
So that got me thinking....is this the "perfumed seneschal" that Dany should beware? And if it is, who should she beware of?
Thoughts?
Posted on 11/15/12 at 8:17 am to CottonWasKing
Can I just get someone to kill that whiney bitch Sansa Stark? I fricking hate her more than anyone else in this series.
Posted on 11/19/12 at 2:42 pm to CottonWasKing
Can't wait to come read this entire thread. I'm about 70% done with the 5th book. Things are picking up steam.
Posted on 11/29/12 at 7:07 pm to CottonWasKing
Finished all 5 books. Now desperately waiting for WoW.
Couple thoughts
to all you crazy sobs for this awesome thread!
I don't think Sansa will avenge her family. The wedding will go awry. And she is not clever enough to get Littlefinger. Plus since Lady died I've been waiting for her to bite the dust. The Starks in the south and the kids without their direwolves are lost
And in then A+J=T. When Jamie goes to Riverrun to end the seige in FFC, doesn't Tyrion's aunt tell Jamie that Tyrion is his father's son more than Jamie is? Wouldn't she have known about an Aerys rape? That exchange, to me, killed the idea that Tyrion is a bastard
Couple thoughts
to all you crazy sobs for this awesome thread!
I don't think Sansa will avenge her family. The wedding will go awry. And she is not clever enough to get Littlefinger. Plus since Lady died I've been waiting for her to bite the dust. The Starks in the south and the kids without their direwolves are lost
And in then A+J=T. When Jamie goes to Riverrun to end the seige in FFC, doesn't Tyrion's aunt tell Jamie that Tyrion is his father's son more than Jamie is? Wouldn't she have known about an Aerys rape? That exchange, to me, killed the idea that Tyrion is a bastard
Posted on 12/3/12 at 2:18 pm to CottonWasKing
Firstly, Wow! Just Wow! I read this whole thread over a few days and it is all I could ever hope for. Almost all of the theories are well thought out with the exception of a few (R+L isn't J, come on!!). It has prompted me to re-read SOS.
Down to business. Melissandre faked the pink letter to Jon Snow so that he would break his vow to the Watch or cause the Watch to kill him so that he would be free of it. This way he rides to Winterfell and helps Stannis so that they can rally the North for the coming onslaught of the Others.
After they take back Winterfell, Davos shows up with Rickon and with the help of Lady Dustyn, the Karstarks, and the newly freed Great Jon (Thanks BWOB!), they begin to build a host and march back to the wall. Just before they leave, a short little lordling comes up with a few thousand frog spear wielders to lend a hand. But Lord Reed needs to talk to Jon Snow about a problem in Winterfell's basement, namely the evidence that is buried in Lyanna's crypyt. I think its either a sword (Hello Dark Sister!) or a confession written by Eddard.
Down to business. Melissandre faked the pink letter to Jon Snow so that he would break his vow to the Watch or cause the Watch to kill him so that he would be free of it. This way he rides to Winterfell and helps Stannis so that they can rally the North for the coming onslaught of the Others.
After they take back Winterfell, Davos shows up with Rickon and with the help of Lady Dustyn, the Karstarks, and the newly freed Great Jon (Thanks BWOB!), they begin to build a host and march back to the wall. Just before they leave, a short little lordling comes up with a few thousand frog spear wielders to lend a hand. But Lord Reed needs to talk to Jon Snow about a problem in Winterfell's basement, namely the evidence that is buried in Lyanna's crypyt. I think its either a sword (Hello Dark Sister!) or a confession written by Eddard.
Posted on 12/12/12 at 2:43 am to CottonWasKing
I haven't read the books. I just wanted to pop in and say that this is the most unlikely subject for a marathon thread that I've ever seen.
Posted on 12/30/12 at 11:22 pm to CottonWasKing
Something interesting to note, in my re-read of GOT, Pycelle in a conversation with Ned mentions that Varys was born a slave in Lys. Serra, who is often thought to be a Blackfyre was a Lysene slave/whore as well. IIRC, Illyrio is Bravossi. This strengthens my belief that once Ilyrio befriended Varys they set out to find Varys Blackfyre's sister, Serra, who ten married Ilyrio and gave him a son, who Varys and Ilyrio promised on her death bed to make a King.
Posted on 2/14/13 at 11:23 am to CottonWasKing
Just finished ADwD. Can't wait to read through all this.
I might be more excited about this thread and people's theories than being finished with the books.
I might be more excited about this thread and people's theories than being finished with the books.
Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:05 am to CottonWasKing
Something I've been wondering. I've just assumed the Others are a threat to Essos, but will/did the long winter affect that area as well? Wasn't Valyria called the land of eternal summer?
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