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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:06 am to
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:06 am to
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1. What happened to Benjen Stark?


I'm sticking with Coldhands (despite the "long time" comment).

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2. What happened to the Blackfish?


On the run. Not sure if he's going to try to break Edmure out to return as the Lord of Riverrun - OR link up with LSH. He's becoming the Boba Fett of ASOIAF - getting the most popularity out of the fewest pages (maybe excepting Bronn and Benjen).

Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:16 am to
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to replace ole boy as the last Greenseer


Crackpot on... Greenseer = Green. Bran is descended from the first men who brought about = Bronze. We have a rider of Rhaegal!

Viserion still a mystery

Tyrion is not a Targ. Hope not anyway.
Posted by FalseProphet
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 2:48 pm to
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1. What happened to Benjen Stark?


I'm sticking with Coldhands (despite the "long time" comment).


Well, GRRM just shot you down. I don't know when, though, but this article is from today.

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Meanwhile, one of the most popular theories about the upcoming book was personally dismissed by George R.R. Martin. This theory is about Coldhands which could be Benjen Stark. Millions have believed this, but then again, if the author says no, then it is a big NO!

Read more: https://www.vcpost.com/articles/65995/20150512/winds-winter-release-date-plot-authors-help-george-r-martin.htm#ixzz3ZxJ0UMmZ


LINK
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 2:50 pm to
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Crackpot on... Greenseer = Green. Bran is descended from the first men who brought about = Bronze. We have a rider of Rhaegal!


I like it.

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Viserion still a mystery


Come on - it's an effing white dragon. Now who is it that wargs into a white wolf and could really, really, really use the white camoflauge to great effect...

Let's see now - who could it be? White. Snow is white. Ice is white. The Wall is white.

No clue.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41254 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 3:46 pm to
this was posted a few hundred pages ago, but no Benjen doesn't = Coldhands

Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 3:47 pm to
Yea GRRM confirmed inadvertently that Coldhands is not Benjen. It was on a manuscript for aDwD where his editor asked in her notes on the page if that was Benjen and he wrote back No. I've seen the picture. I'll see if I can find it

ETA: there it is!
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 3:49 pm
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 4:00 pm to
I'd never seen that. I'd love to have an early editor's copy of the books. I bet you could know all the secrets.
Posted by putt23
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 4:06 pm to
I don't think Bran leaves the cave. I feel like he wargs the dragon Jon rides
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 4:08 pm to
A friend of mine told me this copy used to be available to the public at the Texas A&M museum, but someone posted a series of photos of the manuscript on reddit and Random House freaked out and ask Texas A&M to move it to a private.

He said there is a bunch of other ASOIAF/GOT memorabilia in the library too.

LINK
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10050 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 4:17 pm to
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Come on - it's an effing white dragon. Now who is it that wargs into a white wolf and could really, really, really use the white camoflauge to great effect...

Let's see now - who could it be? White. Snow is white. Ice is white. The Wall is white.


I've been thinking Jon - White and Tyrion - Gold was the only obstacle here. What's the name of that company Aegon is invading Westeros with? And Viseryon is Gold and cream-white which just so happens to match young Aegon's hair. Son of a bitch.
Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 4:20 pm to
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I've been thinking Jon - White and Tyrion - Gold was the only obstacle here. What's the name of that company Aegon is invading Westeros with? And Viseryon is Gold and cream-white which just so happens to match young Aegon's hair. Son of a bitch.











Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 4:26 pm to
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I've been thinking Jon - White and Tyrion - Gold was the only obstacle here. What's the name of that company Aegon is invading Westeros with? And Viseryon is Gold and cream-white which just so happens to match young Aegon's hair. Son of a bitch.


Only works if they're all Targ - since I don't think Aegon is a Targ, that eliminates him. Since I'm certain Jon is a Targ, and still not sure about Tyrion, I'm going with Jon SNOW on the WHITE dragon.

These books are really complex and layered, yo.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4251 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 4:29 pm to
3 dragon riders will be Dany, Jon Snow and Aegon.

Aegon is legit
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10050 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 4:51 pm to
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Only works if they're all Targ


Why's that? Anyone descended from a Targ or ancient Valyria itself can bond with one. Hell, Nettles claimed one by feeding it sheep every morning.
Posted by chryso
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Member since Jul 2008
11950 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

1. What happened to Benjen Stark?



I'm sticking with Coldhands (despite the "long time" comment).



I am pretty sure that Martin came out and said that Coldhands was not Benjen.
Posted by WalkingTurtles
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:09 pm to
I really hope Aegon is legit and he conquers Westeros bring the Targs back full circle.
Posted by MrSweets
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2015
57 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:29 pm to
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I really hope Aegon is legit and he conquers Westeros bring the Targs back full circle.


Crackpot: Doran reveals that Trystane is Aegon towards the end of S5?
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15112 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 6:43 pm to
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I really hope Aegon is legit and he conquers Westeros bring the Targs back full circle.

I'd be willing to bet the house that he is Blackfyre. It just makes too much sense. There has to be a reason that GRRM created the Blackfyre history, and what other major storyline can tie to the Blackfyres? I also don't think it is a coincidence that he is leading the Golden Company (which was founded by the Blackfyres).

Plus I think he would've already been introduced on the show by now if he was destined to be a dragon rider.
Posted by bodask42
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Member since Aug 2009
2085 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 7:18 pm to
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Crackpot: Doran reveals that Trystane is Aegon towards the end of S5?


As far as the show goes, this is an awesome theory I haven't thought of but is pretty genius. This would be a great way to combine storylines and give the book readers a little shock, while at the same time appeasing them. As a matter of fact, I'm going to be disappointed now if this doesn't turn out
Posted by Azazello
Member since Sep 2011
3186 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 7:28 pm to
The main thing that bothers me about Benjen is that unlike the other theories, there are no hints. He just up and disappeared and is never mentioned again.

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