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Spin-off/back to the future/terminator thread
Posted on 6/29/12 at 9:43 am
Posted on 6/29/12 at 9:43 am
Saw a thread question about Back to the Future time paradox that was easily explained.
But it recalled a question that no one has ever been able to answer about terminator.
John Conner sends a guy from the future back to the past to stop the terminator from killing is mother, who his not pregnant at the time. As the story moves forward, they stop the terminator and the guy that was sent back gets her pregnant for what will be John Connor.
Doesn't that completely re-write everything about John Connor? He has a different father, so he should look at least a little different and maybe a little older b/c she got pregnant sooner. So it possibly spins off a completely different life for him. But apparently nothing changed when that happened.
anyone....
But it recalled a question that no one has ever been able to answer about terminator.
John Conner sends a guy from the future back to the past to stop the terminator from killing is mother, who his not pregnant at the time. As the story moves forward, they stop the terminator and the guy that was sent back gets her pregnant for what will be John Connor.
Doesn't that completely re-write everything about John Connor? He has a different father, so he should look at least a little different and maybe a little older b/c she got pregnant sooner. So it possibly spins off a completely different life for him. But apparently nothing changed when that happened.
anyone....
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Posted on 6/29/12 at 9:46 am to TheEye
But if time goes in a loop (only way time travel would be possible i think) than he had the same Father the entire time so nothing changes
ETA finding a hole in a time travel flick is like finding a slut in a whore house
ETA finding a hole in a time travel flick is like finding a slut in a whore house
This post was edited on 6/29/12 at 9:50 am
Posted on 6/29/12 at 9:47 am to TheEye
Posted on 6/29/12 at 9:48 am to TheEye
Christian Bale does not look like an adult edward Furlong. There's your answer.
Posted on 6/29/12 at 9:58 am to Mo Jeaux
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Christian Bale does not look like an adult edward Furlong. There's your answer.
I was excited when Bale took that movie.
Now, I keep thinking about how weird that movie stands out from his recent work.
"You were in what? The FOURTH Terminator?"
This post was edited on 6/29/12 at 9:59 am
Posted on 6/29/12 at 10:38 am to Teddy Ruxpin
I liked Bale since "Empire of the Sun" when he was what, 12?
Patrick Bateman (American Psycho) is my favorite role of his by far.
Back OT,
Jon Conner had to send his father back in time or he'd really be fuct...never born. He knew who his father was and risked everything to save Reese in last Term movie, before he sent him back to protect/ knock up mom.
Patrick Bateman (American Psycho) is my favorite role of his by far.
Back OT,
Jon Conner had to send his father back in time or he'd really be fuct...never born. He knew who his father was and risked everything to save Reese in last Term movie, before he sent him back to protect/ knock up mom.
Posted on 6/29/12 at 11:47 am to TheEye
I don't get your question. Kyle Reese is still johns dad, it isn't some other guy. John knows he must send Kyle back in time so that he is born and complete the loop.
Posted on 6/29/12 at 12:31 pm to 19
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Jon Conner had to send his father back in time or he'd really be fuct...never born. He knew who his father was and risked everything to save Reese in last Term movie, before he sent him back to protect/ knock up mom.
negatory, Kyle Reese is younger than John Conner when he sends him back. So his dad was someone else before the Reese was sent back
Posted on 6/29/12 at 12:38 pm to TheEye
Time is only an illusion to humans in the Universe.
We created time to try and measure the rate of change of the Present. But It's always NOW. But it's an ever changing NOW. In a effort to cope with the change, we have invented time.
We created time to try and measure the rate of change of the Present. But It's always NOW. But it's an ever changing NOW. In a effort to cope with the change, we have invented time.
quote:
We have a deep intuition that the future is open until it becomes present and that the past is fixed. As time flows, this structure of fixed past, immediate present and open future gets carried forward in time. This structure is built into our language, thought and behavior. How we live our lives hangs on it.
But Albert Einstein’s theories of relativity suggest not only that there is no single special present but also that all moments are equally real. Fundamentally, the future is no more open than the past.
Posted on 6/29/12 at 5:45 pm to TheEye
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Kyle Reese is younger than John Conner when he sends him back. So his dad was someone else before the Reese was sent back
what are you talking about? kyle reese is John's father. it doesnt matter if he is younger or older than John, he is from the future.
Posted on 6/29/12 at 5:58 pm to Zamoro10
quote:
Time is only an illusion to humans in the Universe.
We created time to try and measure the rate of change of the Present. But It's always NOW. But it's an ever changing NOW. In a effort to cope with the change, we have invented time.
We have a deep intuition that the future is open until it becomes present and that the past is fixed. As time flows, this structure of fixed past, immediate present and open future gets carried forward in time. This structure is built into our language, thought and behavior. How we live our lives hangs on it.
But Albert Einstein’s theories of relativity suggest not only that there is no single special present but also that all moments are equally real. Fundamentally, the future is no more open than the past.
This post was edited on 6/29/12 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 6/29/12 at 6:38 pm to Napoleon
Easy explanation, John Connor wasn't always the John Connor we know, he originally had a different dad but began the loop by initiating the Kyle/Sarah interaction, but the only John Connor(s) we have ever known was created by that loop. I would say that Loop initiated "off stage" before T1.
This post was edited on 6/29/12 at 6:39 pm
Posted on 6/29/12 at 6:55 pm to Tigercat
makes sense
So this guy is the original non-Resse spawn Conner
and this guy is the spawn of reese.
So this guy is the original non-Resse spawn Conner
and this guy is the spawn of reese.
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