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re: Bobcats want James Harden for #2 pick

Posted on 6/14/12 at 3:35 pm to
Posted by primemover225
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/14/12 at 3:35 pm to
Where did JH go to college, btw?
Posted by floridatigah
FL
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Posted on 6/14/12 at 3:35 pm to
Arizona State
Posted by CtotheVrzrbck
WeWaCo
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Posted on 6/14/12 at 4:05 pm to
This is a weak, weak draft and next years doesn't look that great either. I think you roll the dice and keep him on the roster for as long as you can, and then move him at the trade deadline if you can't a deal done before then.

There's not going to be a Harden level player in the next 2 drafts, I think Durant and Westbrook are open to restructuring their deals if it means creating a mini-dynasty. I think all the guys would take less money than what they can get on the open market to stay in OKC. Fish and Perk will let them know it's hard to get to the top and harder to stay there.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
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Member since Jul 2009
80755 posts
Posted on 6/14/12 at 4:07 pm to
What would CHA do with Henderson? OKC should ask for something in return. Harden is proven, the #2 pick, whoever that may be, is not.
Posted by GeauxTGRZ
PTal
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 6/14/12 at 4:32 pm to
so let's OKC takes the #2 pick..

who do they take? beal? kidd-christ? or someone else?
Posted by okietiger
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Posted on 6/14/12 at 4:42 pm to
Probably Beal.

I don't see anyway this deal happens though.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 6/14/12 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

I think Durant and Westbrook are open to restructuring their deals if it means creating a mini-dynasty


I don't think you can restructure in the NBA.

I would look at making the trade and adding Thomas Robinson to their front line. That would give them the ability to run a lineup of:

G: Westbrook
G: Sefalosha
F: Durant
F: Ibaka
F: Robinson

Perkins is then just your densive specialist big as other than that he sucks.
Posted by dede504
Member since Dec 2011
86 posts
Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:07 pm to
Harden is overrated IMO. He's no better than mt5 or now mt23. Marcus averages 18.7 to his 16 with similar efficiency and really everything else between the two is similar. If Marcus was on a good team everybody would know that name.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:09 pm to
that's an awful trade for okc
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115394 posts
Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:11 pm to
Harden is way better than MT. Good lord.
Posted by dede504
Member since Dec 2011
86 posts
Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:16 pm to
He plays on a good team thats in the playoffs. Not hard for people to just assume he's better than other guys just check the stats and compare the dude aint all that.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
29946 posts
Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

G: Westbrook
G: Sefalosha
F: Durant
F: Ibaka
F: Robinson


God no, okc would take a step back w/ this team. Who'd give them bench scoring?
Posted by St Augustine
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Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/14/12 at 11:19 pm to
quote:

Harden is overrated IMO. He's no better than mt5 or now mt23. Marcus averages 18.7 to his 16 with similar efficiency and really everything else between the two is similar. If Marcus was on a good team everybody would know that name.


wow
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 6/15/12 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Would be great for the bobcats but the thunder should want more than just the pick.


IMO: #2 overall is better for OKC than Harden.


Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115394 posts
Posted on 6/15/12 at 9:46 am to
Stats are comparable, therefore, players are equal.

Gotcha.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110626 posts
Posted on 6/15/12 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Marcus averages 18.7 to his 16 with similar efficiency
Can you expand on this?

I'd love to see how you came to the conclusion that they have similar efficiency.


It ain't even close.
Posted by tigerNation09
New Orleans PELICANS Fan
Member since Nov 2008
12977 posts
Posted on 6/15/12 at 9:47 am to
PG:Westbrook
SG:Seflosha
PF:T-Rob
SF:Durant
C:Ibaka

would be absouletely sick
Posted by ottothewise
Member since Sep 2008
32094 posts
Posted on 6/15/12 at 9:48 am to
quote:

quote:
G: Westbrook
G: Sefalosha
F: Durant
F: Ibaka
F: Robinson


God no, okc would take a step back w/ this team. Who'd give them bench scoring?




I would pick a true center with my #2 over all.
And I would not have to pay him what Harden will make.
I can afford a FA swing man SCORER.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19968 posts
Posted on 6/15/12 at 11:46 am to
If I'm OKC, I like this trade. That is, if they plan on choosing Westbrook over Hardin when its time to pay up. #2 is not too shabby for getting a rookie deal.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31461 posts
Posted on 6/16/12 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

If I'm OKC


I demand either Kemba or Gerald Henderson along with the number 2 pick other wise I wouldnt do it.

They need bench scoring with Harden leaving. If they can get Henderson, I say they take a chance on Thomas Robinson or Drummond. They wont need Beal or MKD. Perkins is not the answer at Center. He could teach Drummond and hopefully he will turn into a star instead of a bust.


If they cant do this, I wouldnt do it. Beal and MKD will never be Harden. I would just keep Harden for another year.
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