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Posted on 5/13/12 at 8:46 am to Choot em Tiger
Uggla w/o a doubt. If Tiger was on roids why does he stay injured? Same with Griffey Jr.
Posted on 5/13/12 at 8:48 am to Choot em Tiger
I'll say it. Albert Pujols. Basically came out of no where as a rookie (not a big time prospect).
Also, humans naturally produce less HGH as get they older, so I believe any player in any sport that improved or started playing better after turning 30/31 was probably on HGH. NFL QBs may be the exception bc speed and strength are not as important.
Remember its not all about gaining strength. HGH has rejuvenation effects. It allows you to heal faster from injuries, and it prevents your muscles from breaking down.
Also, humans naturally produce less HGH as get they older, so I believe any player in any sport that improved or started playing better after turning 30/31 was probably on HGH. NFL QBs may be the exception bc speed and strength are not as important.
Remember its not all about gaining strength. HGH has rejuvenation effects. It allows you to heal faster from injuries, and it prevents your muscles from breaking down.
This post was edited on 5/13/12 at 8:50 am
Posted on 5/13/12 at 8:49 am to HottyToddy7
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If Tiger was on roids why does he stay injured?
Look, I really am a Tiger fan but he was HUGE for a while.
Now, not so much. And now he is getting injured..
Posted on 5/13/12 at 11:47 am to LanierSpots
I think Tiger was and the trail is there with the Canadian doctor. Just hasn't been completely tracked down yet and probably never will be. If it could be, it would've been already. He isn't untouchable anymore and there are plenty of people that would love to prove he was on something.
Don't think Puljos has juiced. He's never had a blip in his career. His numbers have always been consistently great. He's also getting worse as he gets older as a clean player should. Maybe he did in the minors but if he stopped when he hit the majors, his numbers would reflect it and he wouldn't be the Albert we know now. Juicing for a couple of years doesn't last you a career. You have to keep doing it or the changes will be seen. Puljos has either been juicing the whole time or never. He would've been caught by now if he were juicing the whole time.
I think Randy Johnson juiced or used HGH later in his career. He stayed way too healthy for too long considering his unusual size. People with abnormal height break down earlier and more often than normal sized people and he never did. Don't think he did it for pure performance but more for longevity.
Don't think Puljos has juiced. He's never had a blip in his career. His numbers have always been consistently great. He's also getting worse as he gets older as a clean player should. Maybe he did in the minors but if he stopped when he hit the majors, his numbers would reflect it and he wouldn't be the Albert we know now. Juicing for a couple of years doesn't last you a career. You have to keep doing it or the changes will be seen. Puljos has either been juicing the whole time or never. He would've been caught by now if he were juicing the whole time.
I think Randy Johnson juiced or used HGH later in his career. He stayed way too healthy for too long considering his unusual size. People with abnormal height break down earlier and more often than normal sized people and he never did. Don't think he did it for pure performance but more for longevity.
Posted on 5/13/12 at 12:43 pm to bags03
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Brett Boone Career .266 hitter with 252 career HRs. Hit .331 with 37 HRs in 2001, 24 in 2002, 35 in 2003, and 24 in 2004.
Canseco outed him in his book
Posted on 5/13/12 at 1:11 pm to BayouBengals03
I am a Mariners fan and he never made the All-Star team there when he was in his prime. Suddenly he explodes with the Phillies and continues to do well in New York. Your best years are from 25-32 not 36. That's just how the body works.
Posted on 5/13/12 at 1:19 pm to JabarkusRussell
David Eckstein
Look at that beast:
Look at that beast:
Posted on 5/13/12 at 1:28 pm to okietiger
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David Eckstein
No way. Joe McEwing and Geronimo Pena though...
Posted on 5/13/12 at 1:41 pm to Nonetheless
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Lance Armstrong
I really don't think he doped. Just a small group of jealous athletes. He has been an athletic freak his entire life.
Posted on 5/13/12 at 1:54 pm to txtiger21
Lance Armstrong was not accused of juicing. He was accused of blood doping.
Posted on 5/13/12 at 2:13 pm to theunknownknight
Wait a minute..who is this famous guy in this thread? Somebody please explain this one to me.
Posted on 5/13/12 at 2:16 pm to Hook Em Horns
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Wait a minute..who is this famous guy in this thread?
You mean Rummy or Peej?
Posted on 5/13/12 at 2:24 pm to bddwolfpack
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60% of NFL LB'ers/Linemen
more like 90% of lineman, runningbacks, tightends and linebackers
Posted on 5/13/12 at 2:33 pm to trece elefantes
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Bobby Lashley
wow. way to go out on a limb
Posted on 5/13/12 at 3:30 pm to JabarkusRussell
Josh Hamilton, I hope he doesnt but I think he could be on something
This post was edited on 5/13/12 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 5/13/12 at 3:45 pm to lsufanva
Randy Johnson really??? I guess Jamie Moyer is juicing too
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