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Rickdaddy4188 
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Murfreesboro,TN
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| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/7/12 at 7:44 pm to M Le Rip)
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What do the anti-Brady dong-bags have to say for themselves now? Brady went to the Final Four, and the guy who replaced him took the program to the cellar as fast as he could. Great job, bozos!
Man I give Brady some credit , but that final four run was given to LSU by CT. Those players would've come to LSU had Brady not been here. The huge coaching gap was realized once we got to the final four. And yes I know we beat Coach K and duke but athletic teams had given them hell all year.
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The Boat
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| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/7/12 at 7:47 pm to BowDownToLSU)
Considering his first team here had Taz, Marcus Thornton, Garrett Temple, and Chris Johnson I'd say it was in pretty good shape when Brady was fired. Trent's problem was he couldn't recruit anybody for when three of those guys left after that year.
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drizztiger 
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Member since Mar 2007
9582 posts
| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/7/12 at 7:51 pm to Ziggy52)
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TJ good coach. what you smoking. He did not fit here. He could not coach or recruit. John Brady Lmfao.
You know you opened the wrong thread when the quote above is arguably the most lucid and logical post in the thread.
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BowDownToLSU
LSU Fan
Livingston louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
2474 posts
| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/7/12 at 7:52 pm to The Boat)
Tasmin Mitchell
Garrett Temple
Marcus Thornton
Terry Martin
Chris Johnson
Bo Spencer
Quinton Thorton
Garrett Green
Alex Farrer
Storm Warren
Dennis Harris
Damn that's a tight line up...a jr high coach could have won 20 games with those guys...it's all about recruiting and TJ doesn't have what it takes
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roygu
Member since Jan 2004
7338 posts
| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/7/12 at 8:58 pm to LSU Shreddin)
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You can't be serious that it is "much" worse shape. LSU missed the tournament the year after a Final 4 with a majority of starters back, then the next season proceeded to start 9-13 with a team that included 2 legit NBA players and 2 that have been around the league before Brady was fired.
Selective Memory? Two significant starters on that team were injured in Brady's last season.
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LSU Shreddin
LSU Fan
Denver
Member since Feb 2009
1159 posts
| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/7/12 at 9:10 pm to roygu)
"Selective Memory? Two significant starters on that team were injured in Brady's last season."
Based on my original statement I said 2 legit NBA players and 2 that have been around the league. Thornton and Randolph played in every game. Johnson played in all but a few and Temple played in every game. No injuries among the 4 players I mentioned. Yeah, Taz went down, but no excuses on JB's disaster of a final year.
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BallyHOO
Belmont Fan
Member since Oct 2005
6565 posts
| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/7/12 at 9:41 pm to BowDownToLSU)
Alot worse.
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Skillet
OMG, 10 more days!!!
Member since Aug 2006
37137 posts
| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/7/12 at 9:54 pm to BowDownToLSU)
Has anyone heard from the TCU fans yet as to their excitement level on getting Mr Charisma?
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Tyrusrex
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Member since Jul 2011
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| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/7/12 at 10:35 pm to agdoctor)
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Regardless of what you think of TJ it is hard for me to believe you people actually think Brady was a good coach.
I didn't like John Brady, but he was a good recruiter. My problem with him was after the talent got to LSU, too many players wanted to get out as quickly as possible. Something wasn't right. Just watch a replay of his final 4 with Tyrus pouting, those players weren't happy, and it went beyond the score.
As far as Dale Brown, I'm his biggest fan, but even I understand he wasn't perfect. He was a great recruiter, able to get players beyond Louisiana from anywhere in the country. He even got top name assistant coaches, Tex Winter anybody? He was a great motivator able to get the best out of the worst players. He was able to develop players, people forget how bad, Geert Hammick, Jose Vargas, Ricky Blanton, and many others were, that developed into professional level players. But his weaknesses were X's and O's especially his motion offense which I hated, often leading to inconsistent play and letting inferior teams beat us. Dale Brown built LSU up into a national powerhouse and to the point where people crave having a winner again today. Anybody who says that Dale Brown was a bad coach is showing how out of touch with reality they are.
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M Le Rip
Member since Mar 2012
954 posts
| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/8/12 at 6:42 am to Rickdaddy4188)
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Man I give Brady some credit , but that final four run was given to LSU by CT. Those players would've come to LSU had Brady not been here. The huge coaching gap was realized once we got to the final four. And yes I know we beat Coach K and duke but athletic teams had given them hell all year.
As far as the recruitment of those players, you're totally right.
But...how many teams kept Duke under 60 that year? The defense LSU played that night was amazing...who do you think taught those players how to play defense so well, brother?
Brady was an A+ defensive coach who had his teams run a playground offense. If he had his players watch a 30-minute instructional video by Paul Westhead, we'd have 10 national titles under Brady. 
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ulmtiger 
LA-Monroe Fan
Member since Jan 2008
594 posts
| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/8/12 at 7:04 am to M Le Rip)
Why compare Brady and TJ. Both were/are horrible college coaches. Dale Brown was better by far but couldnt get us a Natl Champ and didnt look great agst top coaches with less talent. Brady and Tj couldnt get us back to the success that Dale Brown washed down the drain. We need a great and proven recruiter who will bring in some great assistants.
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Daigeaux
LSU Fan
Mountains of East Tennessee
Member since Jul 2005
4038 posts
| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/8/12 at 7:14 am to ulmtiger)
The basketball program had a pulse when Johnson took over...this same basketball program has been on life support for the last three seasons. How anyone can't see this is either dumb as dirt or blind.
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el gato
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
457 posts
| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/8/12 at 7:50 am to M Le Rip)
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What do the anti-Brady dong-bags have to say for themselves now? Brady went to the Final Four, and the guy who replaced him took the program to the cellar as fast as he could.
Why didn't TCU hire Brady away from Arkansas State?
This post was edited on 4/8 at 7:52 am
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roygu
Member since Jan 2004
7338 posts
| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/8/12 at 8:01 am to agdoctor)
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Regardless of what you think of TJ it is hard for me to believe you people actually think Brady was a good coach.
I don't know if he was a good or bad coach but this teams had pretty good records vs Coach K, Pearl, Olsen, Barnes, and few other Coaches with great reputations. TJ didn't schedule or get far enough in the tournament to have a record vs those type coaches.
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TheDoc 
USA Fan
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
88163 posts
| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/8/12 at 8:08 am to moneyg)
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But, there was NOTHING behind it and all of it was gone after the first year.
Why didn't johnson recruit better?
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RealityTiger
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2010
8635 posts
| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/8/12 at 8:24 am to Daigeaux)
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The basketball program had a pulse when Johnson took over...this same basketball program has been on life support for the last three seasons.
Thank you. We had the talent to make a run in the NCAA tourny, just not the coach to get them there until Johnson came.
Can anybody realistically look at the team we have now and say that they will make a run in next year's tourny minus Hamilton?
And since we're talking about the program, that would include fan support which has dropped exponentially since Brady was canned. The PMAC had gone from full to 3/4 full at the end of the Brady era. It is now 1/3 full. Apathy level at an all time high, much moreso than when Johnson arrived on campus.
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M Le Rip
Member since Mar 2012
954 posts
| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/8/12 at 9:23 am to el gato)
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Why didn't TCU hire Brady away from Arkansas State?
The must not want to ever go to the Final Four.
That's what people who hire Tim Floyd must be thinking, too.
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stapuffmarshy 
Syracuse Fan
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
12905 posts
| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/8/12 at 9:28 am to BowDownToLSU)
well TJ did have some talent when he walked in
whoever the new guy is....not so much
so from that aspect, the program is worse short term
and I don't really see anything the TJ did that you could say would help long term either
so he left it in worse shape- period
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heartbreakTiger
LSU Fan
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
101665 posts
| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/8/12 at 9:33 am to stapuffmarshy)
the program is in pretty bad shape. if hickey stays him and jobIII are good talent but we have no bench in the post.
as of now ludwig probably starts and our only post back up is the tuba player.
that is piss poor shape
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dred24
Utah Valley Fan
birmingham,AL
Member since Nov 2006
150 posts
| re: How much worse is the b-ball program now then when Brady left? (Posted on 4/8/12 at 9:40 am to stapuffmarshy)
Brady left TJ a gift to get started. TJ should have used that team to build on. Instead we have nothing. After 4 yrs of TJ our talent level is the worse ive seen n 30 yrs and the program is in the shitter.
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