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re: Tiger Stadium SEZ expansion
Posted on 3/15/12 at 2:26 am to BillF
Posted on 3/15/12 at 2:26 am to BillF
My question is this...why was the west upper deck taken down because of a slope difference compared to the east upper if there isn't going to be a south upper deck connecting them? granted, i like both upper decks looking the same, but that was a huge cost...for nothing. am i right?
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Posted on 3/15/12 at 9:19 am to Daigeaux
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granted, i like both upper decks looking the same, but that was a huge cost...for nothing. am i right?
I agree. It would look weird with different angles in the uppers, but that was a massive project. I think if it doesn't enclose on this expansion, then they'll build it in a way that they will have to option to connect it to the uppers later.
Posted on 3/15/12 at 9:34 am to The Boat
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They'll screw it up like they are going to screw up the outside of tiger stadium project.
Do you mean "are already screwing up" because the west facade was the first phase of the exterior project? The champion's plaza and walk are the 2nd and 3rd phases.
Posted on 3/15/12 at 9:49 am to Daigeaux
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My question is this...why was the west upper deck taken down because of a slope difference compared to the east upper if there isn't going to be a south upper deck connecting them? granted, i like both upper decks looking the same, but that was a huge cost...for nothing. am i right?
The free-standing design will allow for easier future expansion. Just because the demand isn't there right now doesn't mean it won't be in the future.
Posted on 3/15/12 at 9:51 am to BillF
I would have to agree.
I don't think connecting is possible because of the walkway ramp to the south of east upper deck and the proximity of south stadium drive.....but I think they should try to make it a cool 100,000 capacity. I don't see a reason for more than that.
Bonus points for rennovated the south end zone lower tier grandstand and seating in the process.
I don't think connecting is possible because of the walkway ramp to the south of east upper deck and the proximity of south stadium drive.....but I think they should try to make it a cool 100,000 capacity. I don't see a reason for more than that.
Bonus points for rennovated the south end zone lower tier grandstand and seating in the process.
This post was edited on 3/15/12 at 9:53 am
Posted on 3/15/12 at 9:55 am to Daigeaux
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My question is this...why was the west upper deck taken down because of a slope difference compared to the east upper if there isn't going to be a south upper deck connecting them? granted, i like both upper decks looking the same, but that was a huge cost...for nothing. am i right?
I totally agree, that was a major project in 2005 to tear down and rebuild the relatively new (1978) West upper deck to match the East upper deck (built 2000). If the plan was to not fully enclose the South end zone, then the East upper should have just been built to match the original West upper (1978).
How can we possibly not have demand for more regular seating for most games? Shouldn't the season ticket waiting list, student demand and SEC visitors be good for at least another 5 - 10 thousand more regular seats.
I totally see the need for additional club and suite capacity. It just seems more cost effective to go ahead and include a decent (i.e. more than 1500) amount of new regular seats in this expansion.
$500 per seat (per season) times 10,000 seats yields a 15 year payoff straight up on $75,000,000 cost for the "regular seat" portion of the project, add some interest, overruns and maintenance and it goes to about 20 years.
This post was edited on 3/15/12 at 9:57 am
Posted on 3/15/12 at 10:01 am to dewster
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I don't think connecting is possible because of the walkway ramp to the south of east upper deck and the proximity of south stadium drive
Just about anything is possible with enough money but I don't think it would be that difficult to cantilever a foundation to avoid the existing.
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Bonus points for rennovated the south end zone lower tier grandstand and seating in the process.
The crack/spall repair is something they do on a regular basis but I am glad they decided to include the seating repair/replacement to go along with it.
Posted on 3/15/12 at 10:01 am to SwatMitchell
Looks like shite just like the exterior of the west side.
A buddy of mine did renderings for TAF of a fully enclosed section. It looked nice and would have kept the sound in. I'm wondering if i should post the pics since they didn’t get selected.
A buddy of mine did renderings for TAF of a fully enclosed section. It looked nice and would have kept the sound in. I'm wondering if i should post the pics since they didn’t get selected.
Posted on 3/15/12 at 10:12 am to SwatMitchell
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totally agree, that was a major project in 2005 to tear down and rebuild the relatively new (1978) West upper deck to match the East upper deck (built 2000). If the plan was to not fully enclose the South end zone, then the East upper should have just been built to match the original West upper (1978).
The purpose of rebuilding the West upper had little to do with matching the east. Do you really think they would spend all of that money just so the decks looked alike? The purpose of redoing the West was to redo the antiquate press box and add the Stadium Club, which brings in a ton of revenue. It was designed and built to match the East because it made sense, just in case you potentially wanted to tie them together. Nowhere ever has TAF or LSU said they would fully connect the horseshoe. People have only made that assumption.
BTW, everyone here is freaking out over some photoshop mock ups made by somebody on Tigerdroppings. Why don't you all wait and see what the actual design looks like.
Posted on 3/15/12 at 10:21 am to LSU NO Tigah
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My question is "why don't we have official drawings of what it's going to look like??
My office has looking at them for months.......
The biggest hurdles will be re-routing everything that is underground affected by new construction.........one would not believe the enormity of this......
Posted on 3/15/12 at 11:02 am to TreeDawg
It'll never be ready on time.
Posted on 3/15/12 at 11:17 am to TreeDawg
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TreeDawg
You have renderings? Really? Because I heard there were blueprints but no artist renderings or sketches.
Posted on 3/15/12 at 11:26 am to LSUray
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The purpose of rebuilding the West upper had little to do with matching the east. Do you really think they would spend all of that money just so the decks looked alike?
I totally see your point on the press box, plus the Stadium Club and associated revenue. Architecturally and aesthetically not continuing the upper deck "wrapping" at the southern ends would likely make for a choppy look. Especially since the UDs do no not "wrap" at the northern ends.
Also, does anyone here have a good idea of the total on the season ticket waiting list?
For lesser OOC opponents sell EZ Upper Deck on the cheap (like $50) to regular folks who can't afford to attend any games in TS now. For better OOC and SEC games bump the price and sell to visitors.
Posted on 3/15/12 at 12:07 pm to Brinner
POST POST POST renderings sir!
Posted on 3/15/12 at 12:14 pm to Brinner
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I'm wondering if i should post the pics since they didn’t get selected
yes, you most certainly should
Posted on 3/15/12 at 12:18 pm to Brinner
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I'm wondering if i should post the pics since they didn’t get selected.
I wouldn't. Could be copyright issues, even if they aren't selected.
Posted on 3/15/12 at 12:43 pm to TreeDawg
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one would not believe the enormity of this
Imagine the same amount of shite (and not know where it is), but under a building like the Union.
Posted on 3/15/12 at 12:45 pm to LSUray
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I wouldn't. Could be copyright issues, even if they aren't selected.
Something like that. If your company was paid by LSU to create renderings/drawings LSU owns them.
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