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Give each LSU coach a recruiting grade
Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:01 pm
Les- A. Say what you want about him, the man recruit.
Chavis - C. Doesn't seem to hit the road too much, but the recruits seem to like him when they get one on ones with him on campus
Frank Wilson- A++ no explanation needed
Cooper- B seems to do the majority of his work at the camps
Brick Haley- A. He's made some extremely tough pulls. He didn't land his big fish this year, but that was a long shot.
Thomas McGaughey- incomplete. We'll see if any of the in roads he made in the Texas area this past year pay any dividends next year.
Studrawa- F. I can't name one guy he's landed or even any recruits even saying his presence helped get them here.
Ensminger- F. See above. I never got bringing him, if you're going to designate coach to TEs he better damn well be a great recruiter. Steve isn't....at all.
Krags- Incomplete.
I think our WR hire is pretty crucial, we really need a guy who can get after it on the recruiting trail. There's a few too many guys on the offensive of the ball who don't seem to be pulling their own weight.
Chavis - C. Doesn't seem to hit the road too much, but the recruits seem to like him when they get one on ones with him on campus
Frank Wilson- A++ no explanation needed
Cooper- B seems to do the majority of his work at the camps
Brick Haley- A. He's made some extremely tough pulls. He didn't land his big fish this year, but that was a long shot.
Thomas McGaughey- incomplete. We'll see if any of the in roads he made in the Texas area this past year pay any dividends next year.
Studrawa- F. I can't name one guy he's landed or even any recruits even saying his presence helped get them here.
Ensminger- F. See above. I never got bringing him, if you're going to designate coach to TEs he better damn well be a great recruiter. Steve isn't....at all.
Krags- Incomplete.
I think our WR hire is pretty crucial, we really need a guy who can get after it on the recruiting trail. There's a few too many guys on the offensive of the ball who don't seem to be pulling their own weight.
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Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:04 pm to BilJ
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Chavis - C. Doesn't seem to hit the road too much, but the recruits seem to like him when they get one on ones with him on campus
He was on the plane today with CLM, so does he earn a B-?
Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:08 pm to BilJ
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I think our WR hire is pretty crucial,
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Studrawa- F. I can't name one guy he's landed or even any recruits even saying his presence helped get them here.
Ensminger- F. See above. I never got bringing him, if you're going to designate coach to TEs he better damn well be a great recruiter. Steve isn't....at all.
Krags- Incomplete.
Or is it real (read new) leadership at OC that's indicated? Don't know, just asking...
This post was edited on 1/23/12 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:08 pm to BilJ
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Frank Wilson- A++ no explanation needed
I'd take a + off just for Collins...
Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:09 pm to BilJ
Agree for the most part
Les-A
Bump Wilson to an A
Chavis - C
Cooper to a C+
Haley to a B
McGaughey to a C (doing some work in Texas 2013)
Stud D- only cause he got Ware
Ensminger Z-
Krags B for a QB coach he has gone out and done well with big time QB prospects
Les-A
Bump Wilson to an A
Chavis - C
Cooper to a C+
Haley to a B
McGaughey to a C (doing some work in Texas 2013)
Stud D- only cause he got Ware
Ensminger Z-
Krags B for a QB coach he has gone out and done well with big time QB prospects
This post was edited on 1/23/12 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:10 pm to BilJ
I think a lot of Tennessee fans have said that Chavis is a lazy recruiter. I love Chavis though, but I'm not sure how much he is involved in recruiting.
Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:13 pm to BilJ
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Studrawa
Spencer Ware and (I think) Barksdale.
Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:22 pm to BilJ
I have no idea why Ensminger is on the staff. He brings nothing to the table. He is a journeyman position coach who can't recruit.
Every coach should have a purpose. They should either be an elite recruiter, elite tactician, or competent in both regards.
I have full respect for coaching abilities of Chavis and Cooper. Wilson is an incredible recruiter. Haley is good at both aspects of the job, but not spectacular. Kragthorpe obviously has a tough situation to deal with, but he has an impressive resume when it comes to developing QBs.
I am curious to see how McGaughey does. ST, WR, RB...these coaches need to reel in star recruits.
If I was in charge of the program, I would have never hired Ensminger. If you want to let Ben Wilkerson be the OL coach, fine. Then fire Ensminger and bring in someone who is either a world-class coach like Tolbert or an ace recruiter (but please not Aubrey Hill).
And Studrawa would be on the hot seat aka welcome to leave for a job with Urban Meyer.
Every coach should have a purpose. They should either be an elite recruiter, elite tactician, or competent in both regards.
I have full respect for coaching abilities of Chavis and Cooper. Wilson is an incredible recruiter. Haley is good at both aspects of the job, but not spectacular. Kragthorpe obviously has a tough situation to deal with, but he has an impressive resume when it comes to developing QBs.
I am curious to see how McGaughey does. ST, WR, RB...these coaches need to reel in star recruits.
If I was in charge of the program, I would have never hired Ensminger. If you want to let Ben Wilkerson be the OL coach, fine. Then fire Ensminger and bring in someone who is either a world-class coach like Tolbert or an ace recruiter (but please not Aubrey Hill).
And Studrawa would be on the hot seat aka welcome to leave for a job with Urban Meyer.
Posted on 1/23/12 at 9:41 pm to BilJ
Les - B+ because this year he deserves an F. Didn't close on a recruit, lost a recruit by not being more aware of the Kiel situation, and is going to close with no one special in this class.
Chavis - C for recruiting ability, B for closing ability and reputation. Chavis is usually a pretty good closer. He doesn't recruit a lot, but his name and rep brings a lot of good press.
Frank Wilson - A+ great at keeping LA talent home. Lost out on LC, but usually locks it down.
Cooper - B
Brick Haley - B+. He is great at stealing a DL or two, but isn't a consistent recruiter and doesn't recruit a high volume.
McGaughey - F. We're non existent in Texas, and there are some big names for 2013 who are LSU leans that haven't heard a word from the staff.
Stud - F
Ensminger - F. Why is this guy on staff?
Krags - Incomplete, but he didn't get a single QB this year and we weren't even in the running for a single Texas QB. I think that his illness and newness to the program give him a pass. I have faith he'll grab us a QB.
Chavis - C for recruiting ability, B for closing ability and reputation. Chavis is usually a pretty good closer. He doesn't recruit a lot, but his name and rep brings a lot of good press.
Frank Wilson - A+ great at keeping LA talent home. Lost out on LC, but usually locks it down.
Cooper - B
Brick Haley - B+. He is great at stealing a DL or two, but isn't a consistent recruiter and doesn't recruit a high volume.
McGaughey - F. We're non existent in Texas, and there are some big names for 2013 who are LSU leans that haven't heard a word from the staff.
Stud - F
Ensminger - F. Why is this guy on staff?
Krags - Incomplete, but he didn't get a single QB this year and we weren't even in the running for a single Texas QB. I think that his illness and newness to the program give him a pass. I have faith he'll grab us a QB.
Posted on 1/23/12 at 10:01 pm to BilJ
Les- A. Nothing to say here. Whether you think he is a great, good or mediocre gameday coach, you can't deny he is a good recruiter.
Chavis - C-. Fairly lazy, IMO. He hits the road only when he absolutely has to. Seems like he can connect with recruits easy, I have no idea why he doesn't recruit harder...
Frank Wilson- B+. Good recruiter but a tad bit overrated. Lacks OOS presence but I do like his connections in New Orleans. NO is a hotbed of talent. Poor schools and hidden talent all over the city. Bad schools put a lot of great talent under the radar. A lot of kids here get wasted potential in bad school systems.
Cooper- C+. Cooper is kinda lazy on the recruiting trail. He doesn't seem to go on the road a lot and loves to evaluate raw talent and develop it. Doesn't seem to go after elite blue chips too often, mostly under the radar guys. This is ok because he develops guys into superstars.
Brick Haley- A+. Best recruiter on our staff, IMO. Really the only coach that has a strong OOS presence. He landed us Montgomery and Ego among some others. Both were big surprises.
Thomas McGaughey- F. So far nothing to show for his supposedly good Texas connections.
Studrawa- F. Actually use to be a decent recruiter in his earlier days here but he has been extremely lazy lately...
Ensminger- F. Nothing needs to be said here.
Krags- F. Hasn't shown much yet but he was partly why we landed Kiel, at least initially.
We definitely need a great recruiter at WR coach.
Chavis - C-. Fairly lazy, IMO. He hits the road only when he absolutely has to. Seems like he can connect with recruits easy, I have no idea why he doesn't recruit harder...
Frank Wilson- B+. Good recruiter but a tad bit overrated. Lacks OOS presence but I do like his connections in New Orleans. NO is a hotbed of talent. Poor schools and hidden talent all over the city. Bad schools put a lot of great talent under the radar. A lot of kids here get wasted potential in bad school systems.
Cooper- C+. Cooper is kinda lazy on the recruiting trail. He doesn't seem to go on the road a lot and loves to evaluate raw talent and develop it. Doesn't seem to go after elite blue chips too often, mostly under the radar guys. This is ok because he develops guys into superstars.
Brick Haley- A+. Best recruiter on our staff, IMO. Really the only coach that has a strong OOS presence. He landed us Montgomery and Ego among some others. Both were big surprises.
Thomas McGaughey- F. So far nothing to show for his supposedly good Texas connections.
Studrawa- F. Actually use to be a decent recruiter in his earlier days here but he has been extremely lazy lately...
Ensminger- F. Nothing needs to be said here.
Krags- F. Hasn't shown much yet but he was partly why we landed Kiel, at least initially.
We definitely need a great recruiter at WR coach.
This post was edited on 1/23/12 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 1/23/12 at 10:04 pm to BilJ
Historically
Miles - A
Stud - D
Wilson - B
Ensminger - F
Krag - D
Chavis - D
Haley - C
Cooper - B
This Year
Miles - C
Stud - F
Wilson - C
Ensminger - F
Krag - F
Chavis - C
Haley - C
Cooper - D
Miles - A
Stud - D
Wilson - B
Ensminger - F
Krag - D
Chavis - D
Haley - C
Cooper - B
This Year
Miles - C
Stud - F
Wilson - C
Ensminger - F
Krag - F
Chavis - C
Haley - C
Cooper - D
Posted on 1/23/12 at 10:10 pm to BilJ
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Studrawa- F. I can't name one guy he's landed or even any recruits even saying his presence helped get them here.
This
I"ll get blasted for this but I'm saying it anyway. Stud is being carried by Miles.
I dont think he was a good OL coach and I don't think he can do the OC job without Krags.
Also it does appear that the staff as a whole was resting on the win totals for this years recruiting. Still a decent class....
This post was edited on 1/23/12 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 1/23/12 at 10:12 pm to BilJ
Position coaches have an area and then once the relationship is built thelat particular players position coach and the OC/DC/HC help close. Really whomever the kid takes a liking too.
So might want to take it easy on Stud this year. He might not have hit the road as much on the recruiting trail if he was OC and drawing up game plans.
I'm not familiar though. Was Stud pulling double duty as OC and recruiter or was Krags able to hit the road recruiting and building relationships?
So might want to take it easy on Stud this year. He might not have hit the road as much on the recruiting trail if he was OC and drawing up game plans.
I'm not familiar though. Was Stud pulling double duty as OC and recruiter or was Krags able to hit the road recruiting and building relationships?
Posted on 1/24/12 at 2:26 am to BilJ
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Give each LSU coach a recruiting grade
We should give posters grades also . I am going with a C-
Posted on 1/24/12 at 6:57 am to BilJ
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Ensminger- F. See above. I never got bringing him, if you're going to designate coach to TEs he better damn well be a great recruiter. Steve isn't....at all.
Someone remind me again why he is on our staff? Do his brats pop better coming off the grill than Studs do? Or is he here just to hold the watch on the sidelines?
Posted on 1/24/12 at 8:16 am to BilJ
id give krags a c+ just for putting in the effort in spite of all he's dealt with. hit the road and made some visits with les and frank apparently. seems like kiel really liked him until mama came callin.
Posted on 1/24/12 at 10:49 am to BilJ
I like this staff alot, but there are some major, major deficiencies in their ability to recruit against the big guns from other schools.
Not talking about Wilson or Miles because they truly are the bellcows of the staff...but if you were to pit any combination of Stud/Ensminger/McGaughey against a Dameyune Craig, Eddie Gran, Trooper Taylor, Curtis Luper, Lance Thompson, Burton Burns...then LSU is already playing from behind.
Not talking about Wilson or Miles because they truly are the bellcows of the staff...but if you were to pit any combination of Stud/Ensminger/McGaughey against a Dameyune Craig, Eddie Gran, Trooper Taylor, Curtis Luper, Lance Thompson, Burton Burns...then LSU is already playing from behind.
Posted on 1/24/12 at 10:56 am to BilJ
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Les
A.
He's a real closer, even if it hasn't come to pass this year.
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Chavis
B.
I give him a B because the strengths of his recruiting come more from his evaluation than his actual hitting the road. Also, that video of him recruiting Rasco last year proves he's not exactly a dunce when it comes to pitching a recruit.
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Cooper-
A.
As a pure talent evaluator, he's maybe the best in the country. That's often more important than any recruiting pitch.
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Frank Wilson
B+
If we're going to trumpet his NOLA connections and locking down the state, we have to consider the fact that the top player in state got out under his watch.
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Brick Haley-
B+. Seems to win favor with a lot of recruits, but hasn't closed as well lately.
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Thomas McGaughey-
Incomplete. Don't see any recruits attached to him.
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Studrawa-
Probably a C-. He did get a few guys here and there.
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Ensminger-
F. Haven't seen him do much of anything.
eta: I'm sure he brings something to the staff... perhaps administrative experience? But as a fan it's hard to see what exactly that is.
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Krags-
B-.
He's a big reason Kiel even considered us. He even was trying to fly back up and visit him after he was waivering/switching. Krags has put us on the map of national QB recruits, which we weren't with Gary. Now he just needs to close.
This post was edited on 1/24/12 at 10:57 am
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