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re: YouTube: The alleged LSU brawl video. (updated with EXTENDED VERSION)

Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:08 am to
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31058 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:08 am to
quote:

JJ kicked the shite out of his face.



You know this how?
Posted by ffishstik
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4129 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 1:09 am to
The only thing that I can say with any degree of certainty is that someone yells "5-0", the person in white standing next to the guy on the ground is a woman and a guy in black kicks the guy on the ground once.

The thing that I DON'T see is the alleged truck. If the guy was supposedly pulled from his vehicle and beaten by a mob of angry LSU players, shouldn't there be a truck with the driver's side door open and the engine running? This looks like a typical 2am bar fight.

If they identify that it was one of the players who kicked the guy, he needs to be booted from the team indefinately and prosecuted. If they are basing their case on this video, I don't see that happening.
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 1:11 am
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 5:48 am to
quote:

Someone yelling aye Jeff 5-0, to someone who is obviously involved in the fight.



how can you tell they're yelling at someone who is obviously involved in a fight?
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
Member since Jan 2007
22129 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 6:31 am to
Completely worthless video IMO.

You couldn't make out a single person.
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11451 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 6:36 am to
Im on the side of this being just a bar fight and that it has gone too far, but I am quite positive that "Jeff, 5-0" was said numerous times.... that was the clearest thing in the video.

Now, the question is, do some of his teammates call him Jeff?
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 6:38 am
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 6:36 am to
quote:

Landry kicked the dude in the ribs after JJ kicked the shite out of his face. Landry did minimal damage, now JJ on the other hand?
Btw Josh johns will be completely cleared very soon.


I dont know if it's either one of them, but there ARE multiple kickers.
Posted by LMDAVE
Member since Mar 2011
32 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 6:52 am to
5-0?

What is this, New Jack City?

This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 7:04 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85476 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:04 am to
quote:

Look at that chick with the blonde hair.

If the dude wearing black is JJ (at 6'5) she's gotta be taller than Jarvis Landry is at 6'.

Look at the other people around the kicker. A guy at 6'5 would tower over people.


Well, we have heard people mention that volleyball players may have been there as well, so that may explain the girls height.

Also, a 6'5" guy would tower over most groups, but not a group of 15-20 football players. He would likely be indistinguishable amongst that group.

I am not implicating Jefferson, rather I am trying to play devils advocate.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43315 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:15 am to
quote:

Well, we have heard people mention that volleyball players may have been there as well, so that may explain the girls height.

Also, a 6'5" guy would tower over most groups, but not a group of 15-20 football players. He would likely be indistinguishable amongst that group.

I am not implicating Jefferson, rather I am trying to play devils advocate.





I've seen JJ IRL, shook his hand. I'm 6'3 and the guy towers over me, he's just a TALL dude. He would stick out if that was him.
Posted by Tiger@heart
Orlando
Member since Jan 2005
778 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:17 am to
video = almost worthless
audio = I thought I heard 5-0 warnings to Jordand and Josh
Posted by Tiger@heart
Orlando
Member since Jan 2005
778 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:18 am to
video = almost worthless
audio = I thought I heard 5-0 warnings to Jordand and Josh
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43315 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:35 am to
quote:

audio = I thought I heard 5-0 warnings to Jordand and Josh



There are definitely 5-0 yells to a "Jordan" and "Jeff", whether they are one and the same is unknown at this point, but it seems likely. I still don't think JJ was the kicker, that guy is definitely not tall enough to be him.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:37 am to
People yelling Jordan or Jeff is irrelevant. Everyone knows he was there.

Now if they would've yelled "Hey...Jordan Jefferson, QB for LSU, quit kicking the shite out that dude. The police officers have arrived." Then thats a different story
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 7:39 am
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
8629 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:41 am to
I'm not convinced that the kick in that video is what caused the broken vertebrae. It was mentioned that one of the 4 was thrown into a truck tailgate and that would seem to be more consistent with fracturing back bones that just a kick.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43315 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:43 am to
quote:

People yelling Jordan or Jeff is irrelevant. Everyone knows he was there.



Well some would probably argue that if they had to call for him that many times he was probably concentrating on something else (like kicking). But to me that is not JJ kicking in that video; in a fight like that there are tons of reasons you need to call someone's name so much.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:46 am to
quote:

Well some would probably argue that if they had to call for him that many times he was probably concentrating on something else (like kicking).


or breaking people apart....like some witnesses have stated

quote:

in a fight like that there are tons of reasons you need to call someone's name so much.


exactly
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 7:50 am to
quote:


Looking at the same stuff with our video editing software, it looks like the girl is blocking the person in the all black and white socks/shoes that kicked the person on the ground. she then helps the person on the ground up and walks away with him, so I don't think she's kicking him


I also said this.
BTW looks like guy in the white shirt pushes or hits the girl at the end.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:03 am to
quote:

People yelling Jordan or Jeff is irrelevant. Everyone knows he was there.

Now if they would've yelled "Hey...Jordan Jefferson, QB for LSU, quit kicking the shite out that dude. The police officers have arrived." Then thats a different story


you are going down swinging arent you ?

Last night you werent having it when I said they were yelling jordan.. changed your tune now it seems.
Posted by MrAndroid
South of Enterprise
Member since Feb 2011
1489 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:04 am to
This video is suppose to prove something? The only think I see is a bunch of kids running around shouting. I did see a "FEMALE" kick someone on the ground. Last I checked Jordan Jefferson was a "MALE"
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 8:05 am to
quote:

I did see a "FEMALE" kick someone on the ground.


no you didnt.

re watch it.
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