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re: Did the Bama win last year convert Miles skeptics?
Posted on 7/29/11 at 4:16 pm to TheFranchise
Posted on 7/29/11 at 4:16 pm to TheFranchise
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The fact is that Les' general strategy going into most SEC games is to shorten the game to the last two drives and hope we can out athlete the other team down the stretch
Good insight..
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Posted on 7/29/11 at 4:18 pm to horndog
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gatyger, you have a very queer user name.
Yeah, I've been told that. However, user is due to location rather than sexual orientation. :)
Posted on 7/29/11 at 4:19 pm to GA Tiger
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Did the Bama win last year convert Miles skeptics?
Of course not. But a win in T-town this year might just keep a few more assholes off the Rant.
Posted on 7/29/11 at 10:53 pm to ForeLSU
quote:And after all that's been posted on here you still feign surprise?
this thread has quickly demonstrated that he'll never win some over...
Posted on 7/29/11 at 11:02 pm to Lithium
Paging Choctaw in 3, 2, 1...he's late.
Can you not like a guy personally but accept him as the coach? I think that's where I'm at. Personally the guy grates on my nerves like almost no one else I can think of. The accent, the dumb statements, the misuse of the English language, the hand gestures, the whole bit. After last year I decided to accept him as the coach as long as he's winning...and I learned how to turn the sound down...lol.
Can you not like a guy personally but accept him as the coach? I think that's where I'm at. Personally the guy grates on my nerves like almost no one else I can think of. The accent, the dumb statements, the misuse of the English language, the hand gestures, the whole bit. After last year I decided to accept him as the coach as long as he's winning...and I learned how to turn the sound down...lol.
Posted on 7/29/11 at 11:08 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
Posted on 7/29/11 at 11:51 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
His accent and hand gestures? I don't care for those either, but those are better than him wearing a vest or a visor.
He played OL, getting punched in the mouth every play for years. For each time he falls short in the spoken word category, there are times when his words, well...."Have a grreat day", and "play our arse off".
He played OL, getting punched in the mouth every play for years. For each time he falls short in the spoken word category, there are times when his words, well...."Have a grreat day", and "play our arse off".
Posted on 7/30/11 at 6:36 am to Trelawny
I support les but let's get off the best coaching record in Lsu history. Ok he inherited 1,000 times the program that any other coach did. Saban is to thank for much of Les s success. Miles didn't turn the program around he has done a decent job of sustaining the top 3 program he inherited.
Posted on 7/30/11 at 6:45 am to golf teaching pro
quote:saban was a great coach here but programs rise and fall pretty easily these days. miles' record is his record period. besides that Dinardo started the trend of more Louisiana players staying home; does saban owe his success to Kevin Faulk?
Posted by golf teaching pro
I support les but let's get off the best coaching record in Lsu history. Ok he inherited 1,000 times the program that any other coach did. Saban is to thank for much of Les s success. Miles didn't turn the program around he has done a decent job of sustaining the top 3 program he inherited.
how many of sabans wins are attributable to the bear? Bama program wouldn't be where they are without him either.
when you coach in the toughest division of the toughest conference in the country you are what your record says you are.
This post was edited on 7/30/11 at 6:51 am
Posted on 7/30/11 at 7:24 am to golf teaching pro
quote:Kick out the UR season for each coach ('02, '08) and avg the rankings.
Miles didn't turn the program around he has done a decent job of sustaining the top 3 program he inherited.
NS's 11.5 avg rank is much farther from "Top 3 program" than CLM's 6.8.
BTW, LSU was ranked 16th in NS final season.
Posted on 7/30/11 at 9:32 am to Michael J
The Sabanistas will NEVER accept him, even if he wins two more National Championships.
Posted on 7/30/11 at 10:06 am to drexyl
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when you coach in the toughest division of the toughest conference in the country you are what your record says you are.
I think some fail to take into account how the landscape of college football changed from Nicks time to the present.
In Nicks day here the SEC had one BCSNC and so far in Les's day here the SEC has won 5 BCSNC from 4 different school SEC schools.
The same goes for the last line defense the Miles lack of faithers seem to have...SEC titles. To win an SEC title these days, you have to go through 4 of the last 5 BCSNC. That's more than a tad more difficult than anything LSU had to do in the beginning to middle of the 2000's. imo
Not knocking Nick or past LSU teams, but when before did an SEC team who finishes 4th the 6 team west also finish 10th in the nation?
Those who want to talk bout how much what Nick did has helped Miles do what he did, and it did help, never seem to want to talk bout how much harder it has been for Les to sustain what Nick started, with some help from GN, due to the overwhelming dominance of the SEC in college football today as attested to by the never ending NC.
Posted on 7/30/11 at 10:32 am to GA Tiger
No. I still think he is a mediocre gameday coach. He is what he is. Good recruiter, mediocre coach when critical game situations come around and needs to be surrounded by great assistants. He can't pick the slack up with lack of good assistants.
You know when a great coach is present. When he can pick whatever slack up a shitty assistant can't. A real hands-on coach. Miles isn't like that, he is more a CEO type that just lets his assistants do their thing.
You know when a great coach is present. When he can pick whatever slack up a shitty assistant can't. A real hands-on coach. Miles isn't like that, he is more a CEO type that just lets his assistants do their thing.
This post was edited on 7/30/11 at 10:36 am
Posted on 7/30/11 at 10:34 am to GA Tiger
It's been said plenty of times that this would be our year to win it all. Can LM go through a season without losing two or more games? That's what I'm interested in seeing.
Posted on 7/30/11 at 10:56 am to deuce985
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He is what he is
I agree...a coach who owns the best winning percentage in LSU history and claimed that title during a time in which the SEC has been the most dominant conference in college football.
For a "mediocre gameday coach", he sure beats a lot of the best coaches college football has to offer on "gameday", huh.
Posted on 7/30/11 at 11:29 am to golf teaching pro
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I support les but let's get off the best coaching record in Lsu history. Ok he inherited 1,000 times the program that any other coach did. Saban is to thank for much of Les s success. Miles didn't turn the program around he has done a decent job of sustaining the top 3 program he inherited.
agree
Posted on 7/30/11 at 12:00 pm to GA Tiger
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Miles has the best 6 year stretch in LSU history. That's why i love him as a coach
I haven't checked your facts but your probably right. However, anyone who watches football a little knows that during that six year stretch ole Les has had more than his share of "football fortune" to borrow part of a phrase from Skip Bertman. And, last year, he loses to UT if they don't have 12 people on the field on the last play. And, he loses to UF accept for getting a really, really lucky bounce on a fake fg.
Can play that both ways. If the refs would have given PP that interception at Bama last year....
and so on.
Miles and our Tigers haven seen both sides of Lady Luck. It is your point of view on Miles that determines which side you see more.
Posted on 7/30/11 at 12:11 pm to LSUDonMCO
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The Sabanistas will NEVER accept him, even if he wins two more National Championships.
I think there is truth in that for some.
For me, honestly...Les just does not inspire confidence in me. Probably because of his manner and difficulty with the spoken word and that may be unfair, but that's my baggage.
It's not that I dislike the guy. I want him to succeed because his success equals LSU success. I just don't feel like so many of you here confident in the long term future, like we'll be we'll and fine as long as Ole Les is here.
I thought we were trending down in 2008 and 2009. I saw alot of things in terms of organization and leadership that concerned me.
Was last year vindication? It certainly would seem that it quelled the downward spiral I feared. But games like UNC and Tennessee still reared their ugly head.
I would love to have the brimming confidence in Les many of you do. In my younger days I likely would share it. Guess I'm just an old cynic.
I hope Les continues to show me up as just that.
Posted on 7/30/11 at 12:16 pm to drexyl
Ok your officially mentally retarded. Sabans success had nothing to do with bear Bryant. The alabama program he Inherited was shite, his first year they lost to ul monroe for Christ sake and he built them in to national champs. If you think les could take a lousy team and turn them in to national champs your nuts. He has managed what Saban built reasonably well. Ask yourself this one simple question all you koolaid drinkers, is the program as good as it was when Saban left?
Posted on 7/30/11 at 12:43 pm to golf teaching pro
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The alabama program he Inherited was shite,
False. In 2005, the played LSU head to head in a top 5 match up in November. They still had talent in 2007.
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Ask yourself this one simple question all you koolaid drinkers, is the program as good as it was when Saban left?
Lets see: Saban at LSU coached primarily against Zook at Florida
Croom at Miss St
Nutt at Arkansas
Tubbs at Auburn
Shula at Alabama
Cutcliffe at Ole miss
Miles at LSU:
Meyer at Florida
Mollen at Miss st
Petrino at Arkansas
Saban at Alabama
Nutt at Ole Miss
Chiz at Auburn
I don't think Miles needs to defend his record because it speaks for itself. Clearly, anyone can see Miles coaches in a much more difficult SEC than the one Saban did at LSU. Lsu is still very much the cream of the crop as it was at the end of 2004.
I was a big supporter of the Saban era, but he is just a part of our history now. LSU is bigger than Saban and Miles. I'm glad they both called LSU home for a period of their careers.
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