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re: Michigan is garbage
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:31 am to um2007
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:31 am to um2007
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he was definitely taking swipes at someone, or maybe all the other candidates he interviewed. I dunno. It was tacky and uncalled for.
As was calling the Michigan program "Garbage" and I think everyone here knows that.
Angry people tend to say stupid things. This thread was itself an angry response to the classless (and quite frankly ridiculous) statements by the Michigan AD taking a uncalled for swipe at Miles, who treated Michigan with such respect in this process.
My quandry is this: If I pull for Hoke to do a good job, for the benefit of the majority of Michigan fans who are way more classy than their jerk AD, that benefits the jerk. If I pull for Hoke to be a flop, that punishes the Michigan fans who agree that he's a jerk and want him gone. What to do??
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Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:35 am to kgcTigerFan
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My quandary is this: If I pull for Hoke to do a good job, for the benefit of the majority of Michigan fans who are way more classy than their jerk AD, that benefits the jerk. If I pull for Hoke to be a flop, that punishes the Michigan fans who agree that he's a jerk and want him gone. What to do??
Do what I do. Cheer for LSU.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:39 am to kgcTigerFan
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My quandry is this: If I pull for Hoke to do a good job, for the benefit of the majority of Michigan fans who are way more classy than their jerk AD, that benefits the jerk.
Although Brandon will think it benefits him, it's really benefiting the school and the players. They did everything they could the past three years, but they weren't being coached or utilized properly (Denard is the exception). They are really excited to see how they can be utilized under a new coach. If they are excited with the hire, then thats what matters. It's not the players fault our athletic director thinks hes the second coming of God.
By the way, your coach is 100% class who is a great ambassador for not only LSU, but for UofM and I will always pull for you guys, especially with him at the helm. We know, and have known what we are missing out on for the past 3 years. You all are really lucky to have him! Go Blue!
This post was edited on 1/13/11 at 10:43 am
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:39 am to nycajun
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Cheer for LSU
Of course, but that goes without saying.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:44 am to um2007
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It's not the players fault our athletic director thinks hes the second coming of God.
Hiring a guy who has been CEO of a big company (which tends to promote an "I am God" attitude) into a university administrative position, even an athletic department, which is more like a business organization than anything else on campus, is fraught with risk. President Coleman needs to try and rein him in, though I'm doubtful she can, even if she wants to.
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By the way, your coach is 100% class who is a great ambassador for not only LSU, but for UofM
Did you see the video of his press conference yesterday? I watched it and could certainly see Bo's influence.
This post was edited on 1/13/11 at 10:47 am
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:48 am to nycajun
Yeah, it's a toss up right now between David Brandon and Donna Shalala as to who is the worst Athletic Director of a major college athletic program.
Sorry Big Blue.
Sorry Big Blue.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:49 am to nycajun
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President Coleman needs to try and rein him in, though I'm doubtful she can, even if she wants to.
Honestly, she is part of the problem herself. She is the constant between these two hires and shes particularly self serving. Until both of them are out- :/
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:50 am to robichaux55
Stop being stupid dude!...Michigan is not all about football. Plus, I would imagine that their highest state employee is not the FOOTBALL COACH. With words you have used...it indicates you do not have much going on between your two ears.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:51 am to um2007
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It's not the players fault our athletic director thinks hes the second coming of God.
Agreed. You convinced me. If Les won't hold a grudge against his Alma Mater over this(and you know he won't), why should I? Good Luck with the new coach.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:52 am to Terra25
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I would imagine that their highest state employee is not the FOOTBALL COACH
The new governor of Michigan did go to UofM though :)
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:52 am to nycajun
I will pull for Michigan outside of my beloved tigers. I have always pulled for them maybe it's those helmets or just seeing that big arse stadium. Despite the ADs comments I think college football is better if Michigan is what they are supposed to be. And I am sick of tOSU dominating that conference.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 10:59 am to um2007
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The new governor of Michigan did go to UofM though :)
And he makes between $175,000 and $180,000 a year. One-tenth of what Dantonio makes at Michigan State, and probably a smaller percentage of what Hoke will make (though I haven't seen a number on Hoke's salary).
Posted on 1/13/11 at 11:00 am to um2007
In reality how many people did he interview or offer? We can only guess. I think that Harbaugh was dead set on going to the NFL from jumpstreet and no offer was going to change this or he would be making the jump anyway in the next few years and we would be back to square one...
With Miles, for me its hard to say, I think if DB would have really wanted him he could have paid whatever was needed to get him... IF Miles was willing to leave in the first place. If he was willing to leave, I think Les was low-balled with DB counting on his love for Michigan that he would take the low-ball offer. Miles rightly refused.
I say all of that to say this:
Look at it from the UM perspective. You dont announce a new coach saying that he was your 3rd choice. I dont think that sets up him up for success in a leadership position. Hoke is going to need all the help he gets. He doesnt need negativity right off the bat. The fans know better but it would be bad leadership (even worse than it is) for them to say he was 3rd (or whatever) choice. Thats like telling your prom date that she was your 3rd choice cause the first two gals said no. Thats not going to set you up for success. I am not defending DB, I think he is a pompous arse. But he cant come out and say Hoke was what he "settled" with.
With Miles, for me its hard to say, I think if DB would have really wanted him he could have paid whatever was needed to get him... IF Miles was willing to leave in the first place. If he was willing to leave, I think Les was low-balled with DB counting on his love for Michigan that he would take the low-ball offer. Miles rightly refused.
I say all of that to say this:
Look at it from the UM perspective. You dont announce a new coach saying that he was your 3rd choice. I dont think that sets up him up for success in a leadership position. Hoke is going to need all the help he gets. He doesnt need negativity right off the bat. The fans know better but it would be bad leadership (even worse than it is) for them to say he was 3rd (or whatever) choice. Thats like telling your prom date that she was your 3rd choice cause the first two gals said no. Thats not going to set you up for success. I am not defending DB, I think he is a pompous arse. But he cant come out and say Hoke was what he "settled" with.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 11:09 am to Reconnisaur
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You dont announce a new coach saying that he was your 3rd choice.
No one is suggesting that he should have said anything like that. But there are ways to say that the guy you hired is the best guy for the job without denigrating other people with that "all that glitters is not gold" and "things you uncover about people" crap.
An highly compensated AD at a prestigious university ought to have the language and diplomatic skills to figure out how to do that. It can only be assumed, therefore, that the AD fully intended to trash Miles and/or Harbaugh.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 11:24 am to kgcTigerFan
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No one is suggesting that he should have said anything like that. But there are ways to say that the guy you hired is the best guy for the job without denigrating other people with that "all that glitters is not gold" and "things you uncover about people" crap.
I fully agree. That was class-less. But I can only hope he wasnt saying those things about Les Miles or Harbaugh. Maybe it was in reference to one of the other unnamed coaches he met with. Either way it was bad taste.
This post was edited on 1/13/11 at 11:26 am
Posted on 1/13/11 at 11:28 am to Reconnisaur
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You dont announce a new coach saying that he was your 3rd choice. I dont think that sets up him up for success in a leadership position.
I never said that should have been the case. In fact, in this thread I said Brandon should have just come out and said Hoke is our guy and leave it at that, with no mention of other candidates. For the pompous arse that he is, he doesn't owe anyone an explanation, especially not the local media here.
The entire handling of this was garbage, from saying we were going to have a national search, to then lying about offering to other candidates, to then taking swipes at candidates and former coaches etc. It was a mess and people are angry, rightly so. People were not happy with this hire, I was one of the ones, but when you sit back and take a look at everything that happened, Hoke is a victim of circumstance thanks in part to DB's ego, and it's unfair. I'm behind Hoke, because he is our coach now and deserves our support, and quite frankly, it's not his fault that the AD created this clusterf*** around him.
This post was edited on 1/13/11 at 11:29 am
Posted on 1/13/11 at 11:33 am to Reconnisaur
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Thats like telling your prom date that she was your 3rd choice cause the first two gals said no. Thats not going to set you up for success. I am not defending DB, I think he is a pompous arse. But he cant come out and say Hoke was what he "settled" with.
He doesn't have to say that. The fact that he talked to Les and to Harbaugh before he did a deal with Hoke isn't a big secret. He can say what the world knows--that Michigan talked with a number of different potential candidates, and in the end, it was determined that Hoke was the right fit. If reporters press him for more detail, he doesn't have to give it, and while they may whine, they also know why he won't. That saves face with Hoke (who knows he was #3), and doesn't disrespect Harbaugh and Miles, who risked offending their current employers and fans by even talking to Michigan, and who have sadi nothing but respectful things about Michigan in the wake of their discussions.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 11:38 am to nycajun
Got this thread has taken a turn to the 
A Miles love/Michigan circle jerk
A Miles love/Michigan circle jerk
Posted on 1/13/11 at 11:39 am to Buckeye06
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I don't agree with calling Michigan "garbage." It isn't. But the anger is directed toward the insulting way that the Michigan AD has acted toward the most prominent Michigan alum in college coaching today. Fact is LSU is currently a better job than Michigan, and has been for the last several years. That doesn't mean Michigan is garbage, but it does mean that LSU is a better job right now. I am glad Miles is at LSU and isn't leaving to go to Michigan. I don't have hard feelings toward Michigan itself, but the AD is simply a jerk and has even hurt himself with his own fan base because of the way he has handled this situation.
This coupled with the complimentary way that Miles spoke of Michigan makes it a harder pill to swallow. But, agreed that this should be specific to UM admin/AD, not team or fans. I think most TD frequenters have enjoyed the UM fans that have been on here recently.
Posted on 1/13/11 at 11:42 am to LSUbabe
UM's success is like Notre Dame's...Over!
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