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Underestimating Cam Newton
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:18 am
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:18 am
I've been reading on here for a few days now, and it seems as though some of you are seriously underestimating Cam Newton. Lest I remind that 3 years ago, in Death Valley, on a Saturday Night, Tim Tebow almost left with a "W".
I'm not saying Cam Newton is anywhere near what Tim Tebow was, but is a dynamic player who can single handedly change the outcome of a game. Especially considering the fact that he touches the ball on every offensive snap. He's as big as as Tebow...maybe a little bigger, and is a better runner.
I think the biggest difference between the 2 is Tebow's heart and determination, but we don't even know that yet.
Having Newton is worth at least 10 points...playing on the plains is worth at least 7 points. So at a minimum, we have to put up 17 points just to go to extra innings. Even if we play a perfect game...with no turnovers, we'll need 24 to 31 points to be in this game in the 4th quarter.
Our defense is good...maybe even great, but those of you who think Tyrone Mathiue will tackle Mr. Newton solo are sadly mistaken.
I think LSU has what it takes to win this game, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the effects of Cam Newton were enough to swing the game in Auburns favor.
I'm not saying Cam Newton is anywhere near what Tim Tebow was, but is a dynamic player who can single handedly change the outcome of a game. Especially considering the fact that he touches the ball on every offensive snap. He's as big as as Tebow...maybe a little bigger, and is a better runner.
I think the biggest difference between the 2 is Tebow's heart and determination, but we don't even know that yet.
Having Newton is worth at least 10 points...playing on the plains is worth at least 7 points. So at a minimum, we have to put up 17 points just to go to extra innings. Even if we play a perfect game...with no turnovers, we'll need 24 to 31 points to be in this game in the 4th quarter.
Our defense is good...maybe even great, but those of you who think Tyrone Mathiue will tackle Mr. Newton solo are sadly mistaken.
I think LSU has what it takes to win this game, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the effects of Cam Newton were enough to swing the game in Auburns favor.
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Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:21 am to inebr8ted tiger
I agree; however, I am hoping that the hits he sustains, both the ones he breaks through and those that they him on his arse, will take their toll in the first half and he struggles later in the game.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:22 am to inebr8ted tiger
I, for one, am not underestimating Newton. He is bigger, stronger, and faster than Tebow was when he won the Heisman. Fact. He can make plays (esp. short routes) with his arm. He appears to have heart and the right attitude after his mistakes a couple of years ago.
I just don't think he has the supporting cast or the defense that Florida under Tebow had.
I just don't think he has the supporting cast or the defense that Florida under Tebow had.
This post was edited on 10/20/10 at 9:23 am
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:23 am to inebr8ted tiger
Cam Newton hasn't exactly faced a good defense yet. He might be worth at least 10 points against a team that can't stop him, but what happens when he gets hit in the mouth on the first play? does he dust himself off and come back fighting, or does he realize he's up against a completely different animal...
and don't compare Cam to Tebow... at least not yet. Tebow's will to win is what made him so successful. Cam still really hasn't faced much adversity.
and don't compare Cam to Tebow... at least not yet. Tebow's will to win is what made him so successful. Cam still really hasn't faced much adversity.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:23 am to inebr8ted tiger
I agree but...
You mean Tyrann Mathieu? Obviously you may be underestimating him.
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Tyrone Mathiue?
You mean Tyrann Mathieu? Obviously you may be underestimating him.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:23 am to inebr8ted tiger
I am a fan, not a player. I can underestimate newton, overestimate Moffit, look ahead, and still be a fan.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:24 am to inebr8ted tiger
quote:
I've been reading on here for a few days now, and it seems as though some of you are seriously underestimating Cam Newton. Lest I remind that 3 years ago, in Death Valley, on a Saturday Night, Tim Tebow almost left with a "W".
You talk as though we are the ones who will be trying to stop him. I am confident the team isn't underestimating Cam.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:26 am to inebr8ted tiger
I can't imagine anyone underestimating Cam Newton. Especially not the LSU Tigers.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:27 am to inebr8ted tiger
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but those of you who think Tyrone Mathiue will tackle Mr. Newton solo are sadly mistaken.
lucky for us we have no such player on our team. Mathieu will be fine and I bet he lays the wood to Newton at least once.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:28 am to inebr8ted tiger
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Our defense is good...maybe even great, but those of you who think Tyrone Mathiue will tackle Mr. Newton solo are sadly mistaken.
You don't even think he can tackle him? 3 weeks ago people said Denard Robinson was unstoppable, and look what happened. Cam Newton is a good player but he's played many average defenses so far. Also, last I checked football is the ultimate team game, line up Newtown with no linemen/receivers/running backs and let's see how he does. Maybe you don't think our Nickel back can tackle him, but I assure you K-Shep, Baker, Nevis, PP...they can tackle quite well.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:29 am to inebr8ted tiger
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Our defense is good...maybe even great, but those of you who think Tyrone Mathiue will tackle Mr. Newton solo are sadly mistaken.
Pat Willis style? No.
But, you are fricking crazy to think the kid can't bring Cam down.....I mean, REALLY?! If needed, he'll simply take his legs out.
Hell, by your logic, Laron Landry would've had a tough time with him just by virtue of a weight difference.
This post was edited on 10/20/10 at 9:31 am
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:30 am to inebr8ted tiger
Who the frick is underestimating him? I certainly don't think our defense is.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:31 am to inebr8ted tiger
Add 10 points for the crooked officials.
Going to have to easily have to play our best game of the year to win.
Wasted offensive possessions, turnovers, penalties = Loss.
Going to have to easily have to play our best game of the year to win.
Wasted offensive possessions, turnovers, penalties = Loss.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:32 am to inebr8ted tiger
U gotz to respect the Cam!
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:37 am to inebr8ted tiger
Who's underestimating Cam Newton?
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:38 am to inebr8ted tiger
quote:Dalton says "take the biggest guy in the world, shatter his knee and he'll drop like a stone"
Our defense is good...maybe even great, but those of you who think Tyrone Mathiue will tackle Mr. Newton solo are sadly mistaken.
Troof.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:38 am to inebr8ted tiger
You're drunk, get Cam's winky out of your mouth. Geez ! MS St and Clemson significantly limited Newton and neither of those Ds can play with LSUs D.
Newton will see team speed this weekend that he has NEVER seen.
Newton will see team speed this weekend that he has NEVER seen.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:40 am to inebr8ted tiger
Every week with this shite from someone. Damn good thing we're not playing.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:41 am to inebr8ted tiger
Myself, I certainly think that Newton can steal a laptop as well as anybody out there.
Im not underestimating anything.
Im not underestimating anything.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 9:46 am to inebr8ted tiger
While I don't think anybody underestimates Newton, I must point this out:
Chris Relf (Mississippi State): 6'4", 240 lbs.
Cam Newton (Auburn): 6'6", 250 lbs.
Purely on size, Newton is 2 inches taller and 10 lbs. heavier. I have no idea of each QBs pure strength. See Exhibit A and tell me if you think Mathieu can bring Newton down. I'm not saying it's definite, but don't discount it.
Chris Relf (Mississippi State): 6'4", 240 lbs.
Cam Newton (Auburn): 6'6", 250 lbs.
Purely on size, Newton is 2 inches taller and 10 lbs. heavier. I have no idea of each QBs pure strength. See Exhibit A and tell me if you think Mathieu can bring Newton down. I'm not saying it's definite, but don't discount it.
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