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re: Note to Out of State Alums
Posted on 7/28/11 at 1:08 pm to Tigerbait46
Posted on 7/28/11 at 1:08 pm to Tigerbait46
I skimmed some of this once I saw that it was bumped and saw a lot of people complaining, wondering what good LSU and the state could get from this program.
I attended LSU on this scholarship and graduated in May. I'm starting at the law school in a couple of weeks and am seriously considering staying in the state permanently.
Its one example, but the point is to reverse the brain drain. I'd bet a pretty large sum of money that an OOS student with alumni/family ties to the University and state is much more likely to stay permanently than one who came without a connection. An investment in those students via a scholarship seems to me to be a more efficient way to get them back into the state than any other.
The scholarship didn't give anyone a leg up on getting into the school, so any student recieving it was already meeting the steadily rising academic standards of the University.
I attended LSU on this scholarship and graduated in May. I'm starting at the law school in a couple of weeks and am seriously considering staying in the state permanently.
Its one example, but the point is to reverse the brain drain. I'd bet a pretty large sum of money that an OOS student with alumni/family ties to the University and state is much more likely to stay permanently than one who came without a connection. An investment in those students via a scholarship seems to me to be a more efficient way to get them back into the state than any other.
The scholarship didn't give anyone a leg up on getting into the school, so any student recieving it was already meeting the steadily rising academic standards of the University.
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Posted on 7/28/11 at 1:34 pm to jimlsu1
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I live in Maryland and my son is still going to go to LSU. We will explore some academic scholarship options but I will say that this is a kick in the pants. Damn
I live in Maryland too and my daughter was admitted to LSU last fall, a student with a weighted GPA above 4.0 but only qualified for the Bengal Legacy....she decided to stay at home and go to community college until she sorted out what she wanted to do....
She made decent grades and decided to go into nursing...but was ready to come to Louisiana, so we started nosing around and looked into Southeastern (which the vast majority of posters who know about such things on this board will admit has a very good nursing program)...they are giving her an out of state fee waiver and a nice little scholarship....
There are a lot of LSU alums across the country with children who might not burn up the science fair circuit, but who are solid students and could make a positive impact on LSU...
and as far as moving to Louisiana....would do it in a New York minute if i could find something in my grade.....(federal civil service)...
Posted on 7/28/11 at 2:16 pm to randyb
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Chancellor Martin has ended the Bengal Legacy Scholarship to children of Alumni who do not live in Louisiana (but pay in-state tuition at LSU). Guess what out of state Tiger Alums? All out of state children of Alums entering LSU after 2010 will have to pay out of state tuition. What a jerk, this guy should resign. Talk about trying to alienate out of state Alums. Chancellor Martin, there is a village back in Minnesota who lost their idiot. Please go back!
This is BS. The multitudes need to get in this guys face with extreme prejudice! Out of state Alums live "Out of State" for legitimate reasons and shouldn't be penalized for it.
Posted on 7/28/11 at 2:25 pm to I Speak As I Please
The argument you are going to get from the other side is that OOS alums are not paying state taxes to Louisiana (or property for that matter). They will argue to you that the state has to make up that loss via the OOS tuition and that in-state parents/alums are helping support state universities such as LSU through their taxes they pay. Even as an OOS alum with a teenage child who would greatly benefit from Bengal Legacy..it is a valid point.
This post was edited on 7/28/11 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 7/28/11 at 3:08 pm to Colonel Angus
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The argument you are going to get from the other side is that OOS alums are not paying state taxes to Louisiana (or property for that matter). They will argue to you that the state has to make up that loss via the OOS tuition and that in-state parents/alums are helping support state universities such as LSU through their taxes they pay. Even as an OOS alum with a teenage child who would greatly benefit from Bengal Legacy..it is a valid point.
That is a valid argument, however I would counter that the out-of-state legacy student is not being subsidised by TOPS and they were still paying a portion of the out-of-state fee...
so from the viewpoint of the Louisiana taxpayer, it could be said that these students are helping to help pay sunk costs of running the university.....
Posted on 7/28/11 at 3:11 pm to ItTakesAThief
If the in state tuition wasn't 30% below the national average, maybe LSU could afford the
legacy scholarship. In state students are making out like bandits.
If the state is not going to fund it and the in state students aren't going to fund it, dump it on the shoulders of the alumni.
legacy scholarship. In state students are making out like bandits.
If the state is not going to fund it and the in state students aren't going to fund it, dump it on the shoulders of the alumni.
Posted on 7/28/11 at 3:25 pm to randyb
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Martin said, "In addition, by utilizing the funds that were once dedicated to the Bengal Legacy award for other scholarship programs, LSU will be able to better serve top applicants and thus will be more competitive with other flafship universities around the nation."
I honestly don't have a problem with this. Why should a kid get a scholarship just because his parent(s) went to LSU? Saying he is making it a regional university is wrong though, because LSU gives very few scholarships to in-state kids now due to TOPS. They are on a very tight budget yet still trying to attract the top students in the country. I'm sorry if out of state alumni were counting on this as a way to send their kids to college, but I guess they should have went the "get good grades" or "be a star athlete" route if you didn't want to pay for it.
Posted on 7/28/11 at 3:26 pm to LSUMafia
Does it cost more for LSU to educate an out-of-state student versus and in-state student? How is LSU/LA losing money by charging an OO student the in-state rate if the costs are the same? Educating a kid from Austin, TX has got to be the same, cost wise, as educating a kid from Leesville, LA...
Posted on 7/28/11 at 4:29 pm to randyb
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What a jerk, this guy should resign. Talk about trying to alienate out of state Alums.
Don't put all of the blame on Chancellor Martin.
Governor Jindal needs to shoulder his share. He has slashed LSU's funding to the bone. The university has its back against the wall because there is simply nothing left to cut.
Posted on 7/28/11 at 4:33 pm to LouisianaLonghorn
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Governor Jindal needs to shoulder his share. He has slashed LSU's funding to the bone. The university has its back against the wall because there is simply nothing left to cut.
Actually I was thinking higher than that. I was thinking of our "buddy" in Washington D.C. that has watched this country go into the absolute shite hole over the last 3 years.
Voting day can't get here fast enough.
Posted on 7/28/11 at 5:10 pm to RealityTiger
What is the policy of other similar schools in other states?
Posted on 7/29/11 at 9:24 am to vl100butch
Just an update to vl100butch. My son sounds like your daughter student wise He applied and got into LSU and took the ACT twice and got a 27 both times. One point below what LSU needs for a scholly.
He had also applied to South Carolina. SC came thru with a academic offer that he could refuse. He goes there in 2 weeks. He is a little bummed that he will miss LSU football but after to visits to SC's campus and the coeds, he is happy with his decision.
Losing that Legacy program is the difference between him going to SC and LSU. That's a shame because he is a bright kid who grew up loving LSU.
He had also applied to South Carolina. SC came thru with a academic offer that he could refuse. He goes there in 2 weeks. He is a little bummed that he will miss LSU football but after to visits to SC's campus and the coeds, he is happy with his decision.
Losing that Legacy program is the difference between him going to SC and LSU. That's a shame because he is a bright kid who grew up loving LSU.
Posted on 7/29/11 at 9:29 am to vl100butch
By the way vlbutch100. My wife and I (she is an LSU grad) are heading up to Morgantown for the game. Let me know if you will be up there. Should be a blast.
Posted on 7/29/11 at 10:08 am to jimlsu1
I'm graduating this May with a non-resident fee exemption scholarship. It was the reason I was able to attend LSU. I am seriously considering staying in Louisiana. I had an ACT of 28 and a 3.7GPA in high school. These non-res fee exemptions were pulling in top out-of-state students who otherwise would have been unable to afford LSU.
This is NOT good for the University.
This is NOT good for the University.
Posted on 7/29/11 at 10:20 am to sstig
I had 2 kids finish LSU using this scholarship, and they wouldn't have gone to LSU without it. These out of state Tigers help to make the student body more diversified, and bring other experiences and viewpoints to Baton Rouge. It's a shame it's gone away.
Posted on 7/29/11 at 10:21 am to TeeBoy
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I had 2 kids finish LSU using this scholarship, and they wouldn't have gone to LSU without it. These out of state Tigers help to make the student body more diversified, and bring other experiences and viewpoints to Baton Rouge. It's a shame it's gone away.
Not to mention the fact that I lived in La till I was 33, and payed taxes the whole time.
Posted on 7/29/11 at 10:22 am to TeeBoy
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This post was edited on 7/29/11 at 10:47 am
Posted on 7/29/11 at 10:24 am to randyb
If you pay your taxes in LA, you get in-state tuition. I'm not seeing the issue here. I agree with Martin and think its a solid move financially, assuming those kids will still come here.
This post was edited on 7/29/11 at 10:25 am
Posted on 7/29/11 at 10:25 am to randyb
Sounds like a rational thinking to me....if someone lives out of state, they are NOT paying Louisiana taxes and should have to pay the same as anyone else not paying Louisiana taxes.
Grow up people....
Grow up people....
Posted on 7/29/11 at 10:28 am to Ole War Skule
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...if someone lives out of state, they are NOT paying Louisiana taxes and should have to pay the same as anyone else not paying Louisiana taxes.
These are LSU alumni, who have one way or another contributed significantly to the University.
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