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re: LOST "Across the Sea" S6.E15 (Jacob/MIB Centric)

Posted on 5/12/10 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
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Posted on 5/12/10 at 5:38 pm to
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The show's not over, champ

I imagine they're waiting for the finale to blow their load


Point taken. We'll revisit this question after.
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/12/10 at 5:44 pm to
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But to have characters who know not EVENTUALLY explain it...that's just fricking with the audience.
I really don't watch that much TV, but aren't there are other "good" TV shows about mysterious and magical things that eventually all do this? X-Files comes to mind. Do you feel the same way about that show?
This post was edited on 5/12/10 at 5:49 pm
Posted by tuck
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Posted on 5/12/10 at 5:48 pm to
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Electromagnetism and "light of good and bad" are totally different things. The mystery of the island should have never been addressed.
I agree and Freuxzen may have a point about the fact that they should have never let some people pretend like they "know" something that they don't really know. It doesn't really bother me all that much, but I'm not a critic. Can it be argued that it's a crutch to create mystery? Sure. Does it really matter? Not to me. There are things that the show does so well that it just doesn't get under my skin as much as it does some of you guys.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
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Posted on 5/12/10 at 5:50 pm to
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X-Files comes to mind. Do you feel the same way about that show?


X-Files' problem was that it couldn't decide if it wanted to have the long overarching story or not. That pretty much ruined the last few seasons. So yes, I feel the exact same way.
Posted by tuck
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Posted on 5/12/10 at 5:53 pm to
Well, at least you are consistent.
This post was edited on 5/12/10 at 5:53 pm
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 5/12/10 at 6:00 pm to
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The problem with all of this is that there are people we have seen who know exactly what the island does/is. The writers just avoid letting them tell us.


Just to revisit this for a second: who are you referring to exactly? As far as I know, the only people who surely know what the Island does is Jacob, MIB and Mother. Others may have come close to understanding it and others claimed they understood it when they did not...but there really aren't many who know exactly what the Island is and why it is.
This post was edited on 5/12/10 at 6:01 pm
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/12/10 at 6:18 pm to
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Have you seen the sneak peek for next week? If not, check it out.


i just saw it i watched the show on hulu.com, mainly becuase im swamped this week with finals so i wasn't able to watch it Tuesday night. Because i watched it on hulu they didn't show the sneak peak right after the episode so i didn't see it and i posted it not knowing about the sneak peak.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 5/12/10 at 6:22 pm to
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Just to revisit this for a second: who are you referring to exactly? As far as I know, the only people who surely know what the Island does is Jacob, MIB and Mother. Others may have come close to understanding it and others claimed they understood it when they did not...but there really aren't many who know exactly what the Island is and why it is.


Widmore and Richard know more. Maybe not everything, but more than they are telling, yes. Add Illyana, Doggen, the other Mother etc.
This post was edited on 5/12/10 at 6:24 pm
Posted by JB Bama
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/12/10 at 6:26 pm to
Froze.. you should just chill I'm sure they'll spend the majority of the finale explaining how Doggan, Illana, Jacob, Whidmore, Faraday's Mom all seem to know everything.... and then that will explain how Adam & Eve was such an epic reveal.

Posted by SaintsRbettrthanlsu1
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/12/10 at 6:53 pm to
Posted by SaintsRbettrthanlsu1
Member since Dec 2009
286 posts
Posted on 5/12/10 at 7:36 pm to
for all of you who have dvr or tivo does "mother" say jose to MIB after he stabs her and shes laying on the ground??? check it out
Posted by Muppet
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Posted on 5/12/10 at 7:43 pm to
She says, "What a shitty.... guest.... appearance..... arrgghhh"
Posted by TotallyTigers
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Posted on 5/12/10 at 7:45 pm to
After rewatching I thought the first thing she said was "thanks", but it's hard to hear. She later says "thank you" right before she dies.
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
12653 posts
Posted on 5/12/10 at 8:04 pm to
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She says, "What a shitty.... guest.... appearance..... arrgghhh"
Posted by Dave Worth
Metairie
Member since Dec 2003
1817 posts
Posted on 5/12/10 at 9:01 pm to
My two cents...

Last night I was disappointed in this episode. Today I feel better and I'm just underwhelmed because of high expectations.

I can accept we won't get all of the answers to the island. There's probably no answer that will satisfy us. Last night only explained Jacob and MIB - to whatever degree you are satisfied.

I thought this episode would explain a lot more. When Jacob's mother is killed, all Jacob knows is that he's the protector of the island. He's pretty much in the dark about a lot of things. Over the next hundreds/thousands of years we get to 2004. He's visiting people off the island. There's a special lighthouse. Candidates. I'm really interested in how he got to that point. The preview and some comments from the interview with the writers tell me more info is coming - hopefully it covers this for me. If it doesn't, I'll accept it and form my own half-baked theories.

I read most of this thread on a blackberry in a meeting today (and it was the most productive thing that came out of the meeting). Someone posted a synopsis from a poster on another site about their thoughts. that person's explanation works really well for me. Dealing with Smoke Monster not really MIB and some other themes. I can live with using that as the backstory to fill in the gaps.

In the end, I still love LOST. I'm not big on network dramas, but if you strip away the mysticism, that's what this show is. And strangely, for me, I like it based on that alone. Add in all of the strange stuff and this has become one of my favorite shows ever. I hope they knock the last 3 hours out of the park.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37422 posts
Posted on 5/12/10 at 10:24 pm to
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Froze.. you should just chill I'm sure they'll spend the majority of the finale explaining how Doggan, Illana, Jacob, Whidmore, Faraday's Mom all seem to know everything.... and then that will explain how Adam & Eve was such an epic reveal.



Decataur asked a question, so I answered. I'm chill, no worries.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31649 posts
Posted on 5/12/10 at 10:46 pm to
Surprised this thread didn't make it to 1000 posts today.

Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24967 posts
Posted on 5/13/10 at 8:21 am to
I really thought this episode would explain the statue. It explained the well but does this mean the statue pre-dates the well since Romans dug it? And also the game that mother left for Jacob and MIB seemed to have Egyptian type writings along the edges. After the babies were born and realized they explained Jacob/MIB I really hoped they would go into the mother's story and the origins of the island a bit more.
Posted by JB Bama
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Sep 2008
2669 posts
Posted on 5/13/10 at 8:52 am to
Froze I was using a little sarcasm.

I think you've added some good insight to this thread.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45275 posts
Posted on 5/13/10 at 9:05 am to
The game that MIB found as a kid was Senet, which first appeared in Egypt around 3100 B.C.

I'm assuming the mother was from Egypt around this time.

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