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What bothers you more?
Posted on 1/5/10 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 1/5/10 at 8:18 pm
Is it the number of wins and losses; or the lack discipline and the non existent offense that has no identity.
I bring this up because it may help clear things up for the majority of people here on the rant who dont understand the real reason behind the madness.
I bring this up because it may help clear things up for the majority of people here on the rant who dont understand the real reason behind the madness.
Posted on 1/5/10 at 8:18 pm to johnboyjax
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the lack discipline and the non existent offense
Boom.
Posted on 1/5/10 at 8:20 pm to johnboyjax
What bothers me is the lack of what seems to be a strong Offense and at times a strong Defense. I mean LM can possibly be the worst coach ever, but if he's picking up intelligent coordinators, it doesn't matter since he seems to sideline himself nowadays.
What I personally miss about LM was how arrogant and how excessively aggressive he was. I mean, imagine if that personality of LM was put into the body of Nick Saban. How unbelievable that would be.
frickin' a man.
What I personally miss about LM was how arrogant and how excessively aggressive he was. I mean, imagine if that personality of LM was put into the body of Nick Saban. How unbelievable that would be.
frickin' a man.
Posted on 1/5/10 at 10:01 pm to johnboyjax
The non existent offense with no identity that is responsible for our win/loss record.
Posted on 1/5/10 at 11:21 pm to johnboyjax
It is only because of talent we got to 9 wins.what bothers me is crowton. he is trash and needs to go.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 4:23 am to johnboyjax
It isn't the numbers (W:L).
For the team, it is everything leading up to it. The list is so long it would keep me from going to bed, and I am tired. I'll simplify it down to one thing: coaching.
Let me give a short example. I saw a girls school soccer team with a faculty coach achieve an 0-10-1 record one year. The next year with a different volunteer coach that same team (with a little bit better talent) had a record of 8-1-2, losing only to the league champion. The following year the team had even better talent, and upgraded to a professional coach (with National team qualifications) to finish with a 4-4-3 record. Over three years that team didn't change dramatically talent-wise. Nor did their competition. What changed was the coach. In that middle year, one coach either got incredibly lucky or knew how to forge a team, teach technique, and get the players to play as coached.
Admittedly this is a small sample, but highly illustrative. What it says is that coaching is more important to the outcome than any other single factor, even talent. Les has plenty of talent, but compared to some of his peers (I use the term loosely), he doesn't know what to do with it. His judgment picking coordinators is horrible. And he doesn't appear to know how to forge his coordinators and coaches into a team within a team.
The record is just an indicator of the quality of coaching.
For the team, it is everything leading up to it. The list is so long it would keep me from going to bed, and I am tired. I'll simplify it down to one thing: coaching.
Let me give a short example. I saw a girls school soccer team with a faculty coach achieve an 0-10-1 record one year. The next year with a different volunteer coach that same team (with a little bit better talent) had a record of 8-1-2, losing only to the league champion. The following year the team had even better talent, and upgraded to a professional coach (with National team qualifications) to finish with a 4-4-3 record. Over three years that team didn't change dramatically talent-wise. Nor did their competition. What changed was the coach. In that middle year, one coach either got incredibly lucky or knew how to forge a team, teach technique, and get the players to play as coached.
Admittedly this is a small sample, but highly illustrative. What it says is that coaching is more important to the outcome than any other single factor, even talent. Les has plenty of talent, but compared to some of his peers (I use the term loosely), he doesn't know what to do with it. His judgment picking coordinators is horrible. And he doesn't appear to know how to forge his coordinators and coaches into a team within a team.
The record is just an indicator of the quality of coaching.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 5:56 am to johnboyjax
Offense definetly. All that talant and no production. That truely chapped my arse all season long. It just seemed like at some point the offense woulkd explode. But I just kept finding myself waiting and waiting and hoping. Now the season is over and guess what? Not a fricking thing happened. Its not the players fault because every time the coaches cut them loose we all saw what they could do.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 5:59 am to johnboyjax
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or the lack discipline and the non existent offense that has no identity.
This, and the ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 7:19 am to johnboyjax
1. The offense. The playcalling, the lack of using talent, benching the playmaker. I just don't get what we do on offense. Why call a screen pass to the middle of the field with 40 seconds left?? Why call a pass play in FG range besides running up the middle to set up for the FG?? We didn't mix anything up, is Holliday in the game? Well he's going to get the ball and run to the outside. Option to the short side of the field, this was called every game and it didn't work once.
2. Defense getting tired. Some of this has to do with the offense not knowing how to get a first down, but the defense has given up 2 potential game winning drives against Penn St and Arkansas. LSU used to have a defense that would kill any game winning drives, we need that defense back. This bend but don't break scheme doesn't work if you have a shitty offense, the D is tired by the 4th Q.
3. Not putting a complete game together. Under Miles, LSU rarely puts together a complete game. Auburn may be the exception to this. But for the most part, LSU either comes out flat in the first half, and plays lights out in the second or vice versa. LSU does not play hard for all 4 quarters.
2. Defense getting tired. Some of this has to do with the offense not knowing how to get a first down, but the defense has given up 2 potential game winning drives against Penn St and Arkansas. LSU used to have a defense that would kill any game winning drives, we need that defense back. This bend but don't break scheme doesn't work if you have a shitty offense, the D is tired by the 4th Q.
3. Not putting a complete game together. Under Miles, LSU rarely puts together a complete game. Auburn may be the exception to this. But for the most part, LSU either comes out flat in the first half, and plays lights out in the second or vice versa. LSU does not play hard for all 4 quarters.
This post was edited on 1/6/10 at 7:21 am
Posted on 1/6/10 at 8:08 am to johnboyjax
quote:
What bothers you more?
Loss column > 0.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 8:49 am to johnboyjax
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the lack discipline
How many drives were killed because of false starts, illegal procedure etc.? This a lack of discipline...a coaching problem.
How many drives were killed by dropped passes? This a lack of execution...player problem.
How many drives were killed by some dumb play calling or the meerkat? almost everytime we punted...coaching
How many drives were killed due to sacks, because the QB didn't know when throw or run?...coaching
The blocking schemes were confusing to the OL....coaching
Lack of discipline is coaching
Lack of execution is players
The lack of discipline far outweighed the lack of execution this year.
Posted on 1/6/10 at 8:54 am to johnboyjax
quote:I think it translates into missed tackles, blown plays, dropped passes, bonehead penalties, 3 and out series, weak line play on D and O, time management issues, and in general, the debacle that was our LSU offense for 2009. This rests on the entire coaching staff, but ultimately on the HC.
lack (of) discipline
Posted on 1/6/10 at 8:55 am to johnboyjax
quote:
the lack discipline and the non existent offense that has no identity.
This
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:26 am to johnboyjax
What really bothers me, are the dumbasses on this board that are totally ignorant...
Posted on 1/6/10 at 9:33 am to johnboyjax
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non existent offense
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