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Bobby Hebert on LSU

Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:09 pm
Posted by wil
Member since Nov 2006
654 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:09 pm
Listening to Bobby Hebert comment on LSU's offense on radio. He said what I've been thinking-that LSU's offense doesn't do anything to confuse the defense. That if the linebackers are loading up for the run, LSU should use play action, or drag a tight end across the field behind them, etc.

Les blames the problem on execution. But when the other team has equally talented athletes, you're not going to out-execute them consistently if their defense doesn't have to be concerned with how a play might develop differently then they expect. Example-the triple option has 2 other parts that we never use-a pass or a hand off to a back other than the pitch back. It helps keep the safeties and cornerbacks honest. I've never seen us do either. Anyhow, just my opinion FWIW.
Posted by Hootie
BR
Member since Aug 2007
2125 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:13 pm to
I think Bobby is dead-on! If you're not talented enough to overpower the defense, pretty much your only option is to try to confuse them. The trick is to not confuse yourself and that may be part of what Crowton and Miles are concerned with an inexperienced QB. I say let er rip!
Posted by tigermoney
Member since Oct 2008
366 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:13 pm to
wait, LSU has an offense?
Posted by RagingStiff
Member since Aug 2009
3352 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

Bobby Hebert


Does he mention T-Bob at all?
Posted by kkille1lsu
New Orleans, LA
Member since Nov 2005
1093 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:19 pm to
Maybe he could tell us why his son can't block
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

LSU should use play action


Yep. Everybody who knows anything about offense knows this, but still, we keep doing other bullshite instead. It's truly baffling.

quote:

Les blames the problem on execution. But when the other team has equally talented athletes, you're not going to out-execute them consistently if their defense doesn't have to be concerned with how a play might develop differently then they expect.


Exactly. People complained a lot about the center and guards, but really, they're not doing a terrible job on the run. If you look at our running stats in situations where it's not obvious that we're just going to run up the middle, it's not that bad. Even the much-maligned option play is not as bad as people make it out to be.

Having our RBs rush 18 times for 67 yards against UF's defense is actually not too bad, considering that we ran three times from 1st and goal at the 10, and a couple of times on situations like 3rd and 1 and stuff.

The problem is that nobody respects our deep threat, and that whenever LSU passes, the entire play (including the receiver LSU wants to throw to) is transparent as soon as the ball is snapped.
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:23 pm to
I agree with Bobby Hebert.
Posted by tigermoney
Member since Oct 2008
366 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

LSU should use play action


we do use play action, but only to throw 35 yard crossing patterns, which by the time the receiver breaks open, JJ has already been sacked and the refs are spotting the ball for the next play
Posted by lsufan52
new iberia la
Member since Oct 2009
1970 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:25 pm to
thats so true bobby
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:30 pm to
as much as i liked our O in '07, it seems to me that Crowton just doesn't design the right plays for THIS offense. i feel stupid buying into the "wizard" moniker.
Posted by CaliforniaTiger
The Land of Fruits and Nuts
Member since Dec 2007
5303 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:33 pm to
use our tight end like they (FL) were using Hernandez against us!!!
Posted by GeauxChil
Member since Sep 2009
99 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

Example-the triple option has 2 other parts that we never use-a pass or a hand off to a back other than the pitch back. It helps keep the safeties and cornerbacks honest. I've never seen us do either.

Good point!
I've been saying this all season! Plus if the opposing team’s linebackers/linemen have to pause for one split second (because of a misdirection, or the threat of the pass or even Shep god forbid handing the ball off to trendon) then trendon, shep, or KW will be by them and into the secondary in a flash.
This team has the talent, just lacks ingenuity in play calling. The coaching should be set up to compliment the players, not the other way around! And this has been happening for some time now,,, and it's unfortunate!
Coaching Sucks on Offense!!!

Posted by keakdasneak
Member since Dec 2006
7137 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

Listening to Bobby Hebert comment on LSU's offense on radio. He said what I've been thinking-that LSU's offense doesn't do anything to confuse the defense. That if the linebackers are loading up for the run, LSU should use play action, or drag a tight end across the field behind them, etc.


we tried play action way too much saturday. it doesn't work when the QB drops back 15 yards, directly into the DE's.
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:11 pm to
duh...big duh!
Posted by samit23
Tampa, FL
Member since Nov 2006
7 posts
Posted on 10/12/09 at 10:53 pm to
Florida doesn't fool anybody. They justrun the ball up the gut and outtough people. Fooling people isnt a recipe for continued to success. Miles is closer to it then that.
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