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"Jefferson Should Have Played Earlier": Guilbeau Is An Idiot

Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:12 am
Posted by AlaTiger
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Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:12 am
And so is everyone else who says that Jefferson should have been playing earlier.

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How does he know? This is the same guy who at the beginning of the season said that Jefferson couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and we didn't have a QB on the roster who was SEC ready. Remember? He derived that from watching practice. Now, he completely contradicts himself just to take a dig at Miles and Crowton.

Isn't it conceivable that Jefferson got BETTER as the season went on? I mean, the guy is a true freshman who didn't start practicing with the team until August. I can totally see that as the season went on, he got better and more comfortable with the offense. Lee had been in the system for a year and was more comfortable with the offense. Plus, he has a great arm. He just made stupid decisions, but there was better chance of things clicking with him than with going with a green freshman QB.

Look at the difference between the Ole Miss game and the Ga. Tech game for Jefferson. The more he understood the offense, the better he got.

If Lee doesn't throw the pick 6's against Georgia and Alabama, we win both those games and the coaching staff knew it. They were trying to work with what they had.

Guilbeau is the equivalent of a rantard. Does he post here?
This post was edited on 1/2/09 at 10:18 am
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Guilbeau is the equivalent of a rantard


i agree
Posted by jondavid11
benton,la
Member since Aug 2007
1152 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Guilbeau is the equivalent of a rantard.


Beautiful quote. My favorite in awhile on here.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34587 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:16 am to
i hate GG
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77432 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:25 am to
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Guilbeau is an idiot
This has already been firmly established...
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21129 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:28 am to
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This has already been firmly established...


Yeah, I know. But he keeps providing new reasons for it to be established further.
Posted by Perrenial Powerhouse
Mandeville,LA via Boston
Member since Jan 2006
3652 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:30 am to
I agree with everything in the article. People are always all over this guy, but without the P&G glasses, he's usually right.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77432 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:36 am to
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but without the P&G glasses on, he's usually right
No not usually, occasionally...like Finescum he's nothing but a shite stirrer...
Posted by Hootie
BR
Member since Aug 2007
2125 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:36 am to
Guilbeau is just trying to sell papers. JJ got to this point because he had to start the Ark game and got the reps and attention in practice then, and in prepping for the Chicken Bowl. Still amazing how much progress he made in that short period of time. It would be nearly impossible to bring along a raw talent at QB who is consistently running with the 3's and scout squad. This is why I am amazed at the posters who think Lee would be a solid SEC QB at some point down the road - how would he do this if he's not getting the attention as the #1 guy? I just don't see it happening.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:42 am to
guys, i don't think it's unfair to say that JJ should've have been playing earlier, whether that earlier is a few weeks or even a month.
Posted by nycajun
Nothin' could be finer.....
Member since Dec 2004
18183 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:44 am to
quote:

Guilbeau is the equivalent of a rantard.


Oh, he's much, much worse. He exhibits all the immaturity of judgment, absence of logic and shallowness of thought that are typical of the worst of the rantards. But inexplicably, Gannett has seen fit to give him a forum that lends his nonsense a patina of legitimacy that it does not deserve.
This post was edited on 1/2/09 at 10:54 am
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21129 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:44 am to
quote:

I agree with everything in the article. People are always all over this guy, but without the P&G glasses, he's usually right.


OK. So, when was he right? When he said that we didn't have an SEC ready QB on the roster at the beginning of the season, or when he said that Jefferson should have been starting months ago? Which was it? My point is that Guilbeau is contradicting himself and he is doing it just to make sure that he criticizes Miles.

My point is that it is entirely feasible that Jefferson progressed throughout the season to the point that he was ready to play at the end. Why is that so hard to comprehend? I would give the coaches who see him everyday the benefit of the doubt here.

Now, if the coaches start Lee next season and he keeps throwing pick 6's while Jefferson sits on the bench, then Guilbeau and everyone else would have a gripe. But, Jefferson was a TRUE freshman.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
A man more eviler than Skeletor.
Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:46 am to
he doesn't write for the advocate.
Posted by IrishEyes
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Member since Sep 2005
4516 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:46 am to
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Oh, he's much, much worse. He exhibits all the immaturity of judgment, absence of logic and shallowness of thought that are typical of the worst of the rantards. But inexplicably, the Advocate has seen fit to give him a forum that lends his nonsense a patina of legitimacy that it does not deserve.




Wow your a complete dumbass.

Not to mention he works for Gannett News and not the LSU properghanda machine, The Advocate.
Posted by mbertaut
Prairieville
Member since Oct 2008
62 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:47 am to
Yes, hindsight is obviously 20/20, but don't we all (even GG) think that Crowton could have dumbed down his multi-scheme just a little and then added to it as we went along the season?

But of course, standing there in August, Jumpin jehosaphat Lee hadn't thrown a bunch of pic-6's yet.

mrb
Posted by 4evrlsu
Death Valley
Member since Jun 2008
2338 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:49 am to
Miles has consistently stated, and alluded to again in his post-game press conference, that it was an issue of learning the playbook. The athleticism was clearly there. Maybe the guy is just not that bright. If I recall Jamarcus Russell had some similar issues early on.

IMO it's better to have the athleticism come naturally and have to teach the plays than the opposite which was the case with Hatch and Lee.
This post was edited on 1/2/09 at 10:50 am
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9151 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:51 am to
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Maybe the guy is just not that bright. If I recall Jamarcus Russell has some similar issues early on.

So a kid 3 months removed from high school is suppose to pick up the playbook in 6 weeks?

Got it.

Posted by Tigercat
Tacoma, WA
Member since Feb 2004
4518 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:53 am to
quote:

Miles has consistently stated, and alluded to again in his post-game press conference, that it was an issue of learning the playbook. The athleticism was clearly there. Maybe the guy is just not that bright. If I recall Jamarcus Russell had some similar issues early on.


Not that bright? Maybe hes just human. He didn't start practicing that playbook until fall.
This post was edited on 1/2/09 at 10:54 am
Posted by parrotdr
Cesspool of Rationalization
Member since Oct 2003
7520 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:53 am to
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But, Jefferson was a TRUE freshman.



EXactly what I've been telling people with the same idiotic propensity to stress how Jefferson should have been playing all along. (Armchair quarterbacking is a wonderful thing...). Besides, NOONE knows how a player will actually perform in a game until he actually plays. Until then all you have to go on is practice, and Jefferson had a minimal amount of that, particularly first team reps, until late in the season.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7182 posts
Posted on 1/2/09 at 10:58 am to
Jefferson clearly should have played more against Tulane. Everything else is debatable, but not playing until garbage time against Tulane made no sense. IN any case:
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