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re: What are the pros and cons of HOA?

Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22721 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:35 pm to
I have lived in HOA neighborhoods since 2011 and have not once had any problem. We also have pools and a playground they maintain. Well worth the $450 a year.
Posted by csorre1
Member since Apr 2010
6552 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:35 pm to
Pros, fewer neighbors who don't care about their own house and yard.

Cons, more neighbors who care about your house and yard.
Posted by Sneauxghost
Member since Sep 2020
1091 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:37 pm to
I had an HOA hack f with me years ago. So I got myself elected to the HOA board. In two years I was able to get all fines waived and year of no assessments. I fired the b.s. inspector that wanted to fine for everything. The management company stopped instigating bs as well. If you have sane board members it can be ok. That said, when I move, I will not be in an HoA and I’ll get 20+ acres. A few nut jobs seem to relish being on this board. I did it as a defensive move.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86572 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

I have lived in HOA neighborhoods since 2011 and have not once had any problem. We also have pools and a playground they maintain. Well worth the $450 a year.


I've lived in HOA communities in the past and currently do not live in one. Honestly I would prefer not to live in one for many of the reasons mentioned in this thread, so I want to clarify my posts in here aren't coming from a place of "HOAs rule! EVeryone should be in one and if not then you're wrong!". Just pointing out that most people are complete dullards, or I guess to give the benefit of the doubt maybe I should say ignorant instead, on what HOAs do and their purpose. They are absolutely legally authorized to put a lien on your property and take you to court. The ONLY way it would EVER get to that point though is if you try to be a billy badass and throw all the notices away and ignore them, which at that point your fate is squarely by your own doing.
Posted by Tree_Fall
Member since Mar 2021
489 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:41 pm to
In normal times supporting my HOA isn't very important, but I do it.

Now that St George has the go ahead, I face the prospect of total strangers whose main skill set may be circulating petitions, will be making decisions that may greatly impact me.

Active HOAs for all the impacted subdivisions are one way to ensure that the new St George government (aka Landry pals) know what their constituents really worry about and want successful action on.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5967 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:41 pm to
Just prior to hurricane Harvey, the hoa president had built a 3 story house in a development that deed restriction limited to 2 story.

35 % of houses were leveled by the hurricane, mine included. And butthead hoa president sends a letter indicating that the hoa is resurrecting the 40 year defunk archetical[sp] committee to approve new replacement houses. From a Houston based law firm.

Being a really nice guy, I invited them to the site where I would show them the plans, provide wine and cheese, but under no circumstances sought their approval.

the board in the next six months spent the entire hoa cash balance on lawyers, with no product. At annual mtg, that board was dumped and a reasonable group installed.

I did file a Texas DPS complaint against the rogue President for ,,, under color of legal authority he threatened a senior citizen. He got a visit from a DPS agent.
Posted by bleedsgarnet
Virginia
Member since Apr 2014
882 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:42 pm to
you always here about the crazy stories but overall hoa communiies are fine.

ours just is there to keep things uniform and to make sure the developement looks attractive.

i guess a con is that you cant always do exactly what you want. but im tellling you people have crazy ideas of what they think looks good.
Posted by Lake08
Member since Jun 2023
583 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:42 pm to
Don’t feed the troll….
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
1731 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:42 pm to
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If it is a mandatory hoa,


Explain to me a scenario where there is an HOA for a neighborhood and it's not mandatory.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
66426 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:47 pm to
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I'm the President of our HOA and I don't frick around. You received covenants when you first close on your property, and then wanna act surprised that you can't do whatever you want to. I put cases on everybody and yes we have the power to put a lien on you property if you simply don't abide by the bylaws.


this is the shite right here. I won't ever live in a place like this.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24205 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:50 pm to
We have an HOA and it’s over $1100 a year. Generally, they do a pretty good job with the maintenance of the neighborhood. They are a pain for any changes to the property / construction. I don’t find them to be the most fiscally aware or creative in terms of budget management. We’ve got more overhead in terms of FTEs than what I think is warranted, for example.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3585 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:58 pm to
Pros: They light and decorate the entrances to the neighborhood at Christmas.

Cons: Your garbage cans have been on the street for 15 minutes longer than permitted.
And?

Your grass appears about 2 days overdue for cutting.
Uh... it's been raining and growing more than usual. Sorry for making it rain?

Your leaves need raking.
Well, they are coming tomorrow to clean up the yard. They had job go long and rather than start one day and not finish, I opted to tell them it was okay to come tomorrow.

We noticed that you built a new gate for your fence. What type of wood was it made out of?
Bite Me.

Etc.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
8140 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:59 pm to
Prefer not to live with a HOA group. Have lived in both and found the rules were adopted too subjectively. There wasn't anything such a pools or recreation areas to maintain. The neighborhood I live in now without the HOA is similar to the HOA without facilities to support and all is well.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79382 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Explain to me a scenario where there is an HOA for a neighborhood and it's not mandatory.


Any HOA that isn't deed restricted, presumably

Ours is not, and our HOA is an essentially a neighborhood non-profit that negotiates discount services, does senior signs, plans parties, maintains islands and circles, pays for off duty policy and traffic calming measures, etc.

Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34263 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:10 pm to
Nothing good about HOA's. Magnets for power tripping Karen's hell bent on making your life as miserable as possible. Your trash is out too early or late, your grass isn't cut to a specific height, your lawn guy obstructs the street, your trees/shrubs aren't trimmed, blah, blah, blah....
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
5967 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:11 pm to
Ours is not mandatory. About 60% participation at a cost of 250 a year. Looks after street lites, green space mowing and canal maintenance
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3585 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:12 pm to
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traffic calming measures

Speed bumps in the middle of your streets? The normal ones or those hard rubber bitches that have no give whatsoever to them? I don't mind speed bumps.. I just hate those stupid ones.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 2:15 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86572 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

Ours is not mandatory. About 60% participation at a cost of 250 a year. Looks after street lites, green space mowing and canal maintenance


My only experience is with standard HOAs where everyone is obligated. How does it work for these non-mandatory ones in relation to stuff like common green space mowing and street lights? Like what happens with the folks that opt out and don't pay since those services are going to still get done anyway?
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
4687 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:26 pm to
I've got a buddy who pays a couple hundred / month in Coconut Creek, FL and it gives him access to a golf course. They don't really have yards, but they get people to come out once a week to do a quick mow. They live in townhouses so nothing fancy, but they just got brand new roofs for the entire community (even though most homes touch each other). If this type of stuff matters to you, it's worth it.

IMO most HOAs will do what they can do take money and find stupid shite to spend on it. My parents have an HOA that covers TV which is nice, but they're also required to get a specific mailbox that costs over $500 if needing replacement. I can't tell you how many times someone driving by has hit that mailbox.
Posted by chrome_daddy
LA (Lower Ashvegas)
Member since May 2004
2086 posts
Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:49 pm to
Never lived in an area with an HOA. Either deep in the city/town in old houses or out in the country, where I am now. I'm lucky in that my area is a fairly affluent county that requires minimal 10 acre lots for new dev. And strong code enforcement.

My neighbors a 1/4 mile down the road who moved from the city may wish there was an HOA to stop my buddies and I from shooting on Sundays. Oh well.
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