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Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:07 am to kingbob
A super smart and close friend I went to law school with is a big-L libertarian living close to an anarchist-level dream in Las Vegas currently. I think he's still playing poker but he shifts from EV+ opportunity to EV+ opportunity.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:08 am to Night Vision
Laughs in Harrison Bergeron
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:32 am to Night Vision
The problem with gifted and talented programs is the same problem with discipline. The demographics involving those areas have terrible optics.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 10:41 am to Night Vision
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which administrators argued was oversaturated with white and Asian students
2018 survey found that the students in the Highly Capable Cohort were 13% multiracial, 11.8% Asian, 3.7% Hispanic and just 1.6% black.
In the 2022 – 23 school year, 52% of the students were white, 16% were Asian and 3.4% were black
Actually, looks like the Asian students were also underrepresented. They claim 13% of the G&T is multiracial, but do not give the data of multiracial for the entire student population? I would expect many of those multiracial to identify as something other than white, maybe even part of the black student population.
I ask this question knowing the answer, but with black students representing 3.4% of the student body what percent of the G&T would they deem acceptable?
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:33 am to TigerAxeOK
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But yeah, if I'm in a gifted program because of my ability to do advanced trigonometry at 12 years old, the one thing truly missing from that classroom is a few people who constantly fight with one another shouting "f**k you n***a!" and demanding better grades that everyone else because of how "oppressed" they feel. That'll certainly fix everything!!!!
The best thing that could happen (but NEVER will) would be to stop assigning grade levels, to stop moving kids to the next grade when they have not mastered all the fields of their current grade.
Students should receive instruction on something and be tested on it and not allowed to move on to the next level until they master it. I think most teachers try their best to do that but they have to weigh the time spent with a low performer vs all the other kids who are on level.
I worked hard with my children from preschool and all they way into high school and they were in ap classes with GPA's over 4.0. Their success is more on me and my wife that a teacher. I expected them to make good grades and worked with them to assure they made them.
I would bet that the vast majority of parents of kids with low GPA's and are far beneath grade level have parents who dont do anything for their kids education.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:35 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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Tate in MS had a good start, but they need to push harder. Every subject, particularly math, should be moved up a year or 2. Start teaching algebra in 6th grade instead of 7-8. Focus on the kids that do the work, expel the ones that don't, and stop wasting money on them.
Exactly.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:38 am to Night Vision
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Night Vision
Where in Washington do you live? I'm in Lacey but work in Seattle.
I assume this is another one of Jason Rantz' articles that follow the paradigm of "bad policies don't just stay in Seattle, they spread to the rest of the state as well"
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:39 am to Weekend Warrior79
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Actually, looks like the Asian students were also underrepresented.
One example is Clover Park ISD (JBLM area, just south of Tacoma). The largest ethnic group there is actually A/PI.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:40 am to Night Vision
Stragglers of Colour
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:41 am to alphaandomega
My G&T class was all white.
Of course there was only one black family in the county. No mexicans and no Asians.
Was one other dude and myself.
Of course there was only one black family in the county. No mexicans and no Asians.
Was one other dude and myself.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:43 am to TenWheelsForJesus
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Focus on the kids that do the work, expel the ones that don't, and stop wasting money on them.
My first bill as President would be titled “Leave Some Children Behind.”
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:44 am to Night Vision
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students who have been historically excluded will now have the same opportunities for services as every other student and get the support and enrichment they need to grow.”
You mean the dumb ones?
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:49 am to Night Vision
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“Numbers would suggest that within our city … predominantly white children are more gifted than other cultures and races, and we know that is absolutely not true,” Kari Hanson, the district’s director of student support services, told Parent Map at the time.
They’re getting sooooo close to the answer… (cultcha).
I have an idea. Have an unbiased, unknown third party run blind admissions for the program, and take race off all applications. Don’t let them see a picture of the kids. shite, leave the name off of it too, so you don’t have Chan’s and Jamal’s and Liam’s that give away the race.
This is really how we should approach admissions and applications at all levels, but my guess is they don’t want to do that because they know what the results are going to be.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 11:52 am to Night Vision
quote:How is depriving g high-potential students opportunities for support and enrichment they need to grow any less cruel than denying to the dumb ones?
students who have been historically excluded will now have the same opportunities for services as every other student and get the support and enrichment they need to grow
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:11 pm to alphaandomega
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The best thing that could happen (but NEVER will) would be to stop assigning grade levels, to stop moving kids to the next grade when they have not mastered all the fields of their current grade.
Students should receive instruction on something and be tested on it and not allowed to move on to the next level until they master it.
You actually could have a college style set-up. You need X credits to graduate, these are the required courses, here are the pre-requisites before you can take the next course.... "Grade level" is based on number of cumulative hours collected; here is your plan/path to graduation.
You should also be allowed to test out of certain classes.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:24 pm to Night Vision
Liberal whites are just evil people.
Told the black parents to STFU. I know what's best for you.
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But then-school board vice president Chandra Hampson shot back: “This is a pretty masterful job at tokenizing a really small community of color within the existing cohort.”
Told the black parents to STFU. I know what's best for you.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 4/3/24 at 12:43 pm to Night Vision
As a very gifted and talented man, I am sad to see that Seattle kids will never get to experience just how wonderful being GT is.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 1:52 pm to Night Vision
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Karen Stukovsky, who has three children in the gifted program, added that each teacher “can only do so much differentiation.
“You have some kids who can barely read and some kids who are reading ‘Harry Potter’ in the first grade or kindergarten,” she said.
Imagine when your kid writes a far superior essay but gets the same grade as dumbo b/c they're held to different standards.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 2:32 pm to Night Vision
How about we bring these identity politic quotas to sports teams such as basketball, football, etc. which would mean there shouldn't be more than 13% of blacks on any one team.....I'll hang up and listen.
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