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Gifted & talented program shutdown for being oversaturated with whites and Asians?

Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:21 am
Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:21 am
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Seattle Public Schools is dismantling its gifted and talented program, which administrators argued was oversaturated with white and Asian students, in favor of a more “inclusive, equitable and culturally sensitive” program.

The district began phasing out its Highly Capable Cohort schools and classrooms for advanced students in the 2021-22 school year due to racial inequities, the school district notes.

It will now completely cease to exist by the 2027-28 school year, with a new enrichment-for-all model available in every school by the 2024-25 school year.

“The program is not going away, it’s getting better,” school officials said on the district website.

“It will be more inclusive, equitable and culturally sensitive.

“In particular, students who have been historically excluded will now have the same opportunities for services as every other student and get the support and enrichment they need to grow.”

Garfield High School is one of Seattle's public schools will be forced to shutter their gifted and talented program.

The enrichment program currently only allows students who placed in the top 2 percentile on standardized exams would be placed in the Highly Capable Cohort to receive enriched learning.

The students would then be sorted into one of three elementary schools, five middle schools and three high schools.

But in 2020, the Seattle school board voted to terminate the program, after a 2018 survey found that the students in the Highly Capable Cohort were 13% multiracial, 11.8% Asian, 3.7% Hispanic and just 1.6% black.

Under the new program, dubbed the Highly Capable Neighborhood School Model, teachers will be required to come up with individualized learning programs for all 20 to 30 of their students.

Nearly 70% of the students were white.

“Numbers would suggest that within our city … predominantly white children are more gifted than other cultures and races, and we know that is absolutely not true,” Kari Hanson, the district’s director of student support services, told Parent Map at the time.

Under the new program, dubbed the Highly Capable Neighborhood School Model, teachers will be required to come up with individualized learning programs for all 20 to 30 of their students — a task they argue they do not have the time and resources for as the district faces a $104 million budget deficit, according to the Seattle Times.

The district said it is working to provide teachers with curriculum and instruction on how to make it work, but an estimate from 2020 suggested an enrichment-for-all program would cost the district $1.1 million over the first three years.

One teacher said she worries it will become more difficult under the new program to teach math to students with a range of abilities, and that the whole-classroom approach won’t properly prepare students for Advanced Placement math and science courses.

Parents also expressed their concerns that the new model could lead to children getting overlooked.

When the school board decided to dismantle the program, then vice president Chandra Hampson accused parents of black students in the cohort of “tokenizing a really small community.”

“It seems to me that kids on maybe both extremes are going to be underserved,” Erika Ruberry told the Seattle Times.

Karen Stukovsky, who has three children in the gifted program, added that each teacher “can only do so much differentiation.

“You have some kids who can barely read and some kids who are reading ‘Harry Potter’ in the first grade or kindergarten,” she said.

“How are you going to not only get those kids up to grade level, and also challenge those kids who are already easy above grade level?”

Some parents of black students in the program even argued against ending it.

“My request is that you please consider the disservice you would be doing to the minorities that are already in the HCC program,” one father said at the school board meeting to approve the new program in 2020, according to The Stranger.

“The program does more for black children, particularly black boys, than it does for their peers.”

But then-school board vice president Chandra Hampson shot back: “This is a pretty masterful job at tokenizing a really small community of color within the existing cohort.”

In the 2022 – 23 school year, 52% of the students were white, 16% were Asian and 3.4% were black, according to the Seattle Times.


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Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10301 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:30 am to
Things like this will slowly swing the pendulum back in the right direction, but these people are getting exactly what they voted for. Many states are implementing voucher programs for just this reason.

Maybe some of these teacher unions will rethink their automatic support for all things Democrat.
Posted by TheFolker
Member since Aug 2011
5185 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:33 am to
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Numbers would suggest that within our city … predominantly white children are more gifted than other cultures and races, and we know that is absolutely not true,” Kari Hanson, the district’s director of student support services, told Parent Map at the time.


Those pesky numbers suggesting lies.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32246 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:34 am to
Lowering the bar always results in a very low bar. Maybe POCs should try harder, have two parent families that value education, make sure their kids attend school instead of skipping. You know, be a responsible parent. I thought they said affirmative action was against the law. What else could you call this?
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
14997 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:36 am to
It'll be interesting to see if any of the left wingers will come in here and try to justify this. Closing opportunities for those who excel doesn't seem like a very good idea to me
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71436 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:39 am to
Most of the G&T kids that I knew did really good in school but they didn’t turn out well after or went to college for something irrelevant.
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4472 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:45 am to
Didn't Washington State also just pass legislature that you didn't need to pass the bar in order to practice law?
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
6913 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:50 am to
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“In particular, students who have been historically excluded will now have the same opportunities

Who said they don't?? The shame is on the non-whites and non-Asians, not the whites and Asians.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112475 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:51 am to
G.T. classes are based on merit and the left hates the concept of merit. Yet these schools have football teams based on merit. To promote equity and inclusion coaches should be forced to play the starters for only half the game and the bench warmers play the other half.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71083 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:52 am to
Gifted program at my HS was about half black. Guess they were cornball bruthas.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422470 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:52 am to
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G.T. classes are based on merit

More intelligence/aptitude

quote:

and the left hates the concept of merit. Y

They hate innate biological differences more b/c of their reliance on tabula rasa as an ideology.
Posted by Tiger_n_Texas
Member since Aug 2014
991 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:53 am to
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teachers will be required to come up with individualized learning programs for all 20 to 30 of their students


An IEP for EVERY student... Those teachers will either walk before doing that much extra work or the IEPs will be extremely generic and not actually individualized at all.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422470 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:55 am to
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Most of the G&T kids that I knew did really good in school but they didn’t turn out well after or went to college for something irrelevant.

There is a certain curse to a very high IQ

Guy I met in the honors dorm freshman year was on like Junior-level math his first semester (he went to LSMSA, which is a state-public high school for the super smart/achievers in LA) and I heard he dropped out by junior year to deliver pizzas so he could smoke weed all day.

One guy in the dorms was busted growing mushrooms.

A few had mental breakdowns studying for Western Civ finals.

*ETA: one of the guys who claims to have the highest recorded IQ is a bouncer at a bar and never graduated college but is writing a treatise tying all of reality together or some shite.
This post was edited on 4/3/24 at 8:57 am
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57316 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:55 am to
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Things like this will slowly swing the pendulum back in the right direction


We’re in year 20 waiting for this “correction”

I guess others aren’t getting the memo
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24817 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:07 am to
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Seattle Public Schools is dismantling its gifted and talented program, which administrators argued was oversaturated with white and Asian students, in favor of a more “inclusive, equitable and culturally sensitive” program.

This is why China and India and about half of civilized nations worldwide are eating our lunch in regards to education.

We have programs that are exactly what the civil rights movement of MLK fought for; non judgemental about race or skin color, but based instead on merit and actions. Wasn't there something said about the "content of character"?

But that's not good enough, because an entire American subculture bred and created by the Establishment Left has been programmed with a disposition and propensity towards violence and the secular through media, Hollywood and the music industry.

But yeah, if I'm in a gifted program because of my ability to do advanced trigonometry at 12 years old, the one thing truly missing from that classroom is a few people who constantly fight with one another shouting "f**k you n***a!" and demanding better grades that everyone else because of how "oppressed" they feel. That'll certainly fix everything!!!!
Posted by GeronimoBernstein
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2016
317 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:17 am to
"The bottom quintile you will always have with you...." So sayeth our Lord.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6498 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:21 am to
As blue states continue to intentionally dumb down their children, this is a huge opportunity for red states. Unfortunately, red states are run by Republicans, and Republicans are losers.

Red states could be dominating every generation with higher IQs and more knowledge within 20 years if they actually had the balls to do what is right.

Tate in MS had a good start, but they need to push harder. Every subject, particularly math, should be moved up a year or 2. Start teaching algebra in 6th grade instead of 7-8. Focus on the kids that do the work, expel the ones that don't, and stop wasting money on them.

It's an easy fix, but even Republicans don't want to do the work.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10314 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:23 am to
Getting ready for third world type schools
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
7633 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:32 am to
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Things like this will slowly swing the pendulum back in the right direction



Yall dumbasses have been saying this since the 90s. Meanwhile the new generations become more and more indoctrinated. Your faith in humanity is fricking laughable. People are stupid.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67090 posts
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:36 am to
Some of the most intelligent people I know turned into “burnouts” by society’s standards.
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