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Wife Started a LLC / S Corp
Posted on 2/7/24 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 2/7/24 at 7:34 pm
What advice or hacks do you guys have about solo 401K, writing off expenses, & self-employment tax. She's a Nurse Practitioner and will be working at a Med Spa after years of working at a hospital. She is a 1099 contractor worker so paid hourly plus commission and will be getting health insurance through my company. We met with a CPA to helps setup the LLC but any advice helps.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 7:47 pm to Nighthawk504
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What advice or hacks do you guys have about solo 401K, writing off expenses, & self-employment tax. She's a Nurse Practitioner and will be working at a Med Spa after years of working at a hospital. She is a 1099 contractor worker so paid hourly plus commission and will be getting health insurance through my company. We met with a CPA to helps setup the LLC but any advice helps.
I'd lean on CPA but pay herself a reasonable salary. Look up average on Bureau of Labor & Statistics.
Get Mile IQ
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:04 pm to Billy Blanks
Look in to SEP IRA or Solo 401K to defer taxes.
If not close to 59.5 years put in to low cost index funds and max it out every year.
If not close to 59.5 years put in to low cost index funds and max it out every year.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:21 pm to Nighthawk504
You don't need an LLC to take advantage of schedule C deductions, although establishing an LLC, can help you keep track of business expenses better. There's not as much benefit to classifying as a S-corp as there used to be with the QBI deduction taken into account. So hopefully your CPA is helpful in forecasting projected income to determine if the administrative fees and payroll taxes are worth it, if your CPA is truly setting up a S-corp.
Consider opening a business checking account and a business credit card to help keep track of expenses easier. If you pursue rewards, etc. may want to consider a credit card that you can transfer them to your personal account.
Otherwise,
Solo 410k - depends on want to do with it. If you are planning to just do standard investments, index funds, ETFS etc. then you can easily open one up at any of the big brokerages (Vanguard, Schwab, Fidelity, etc). Some differentiation which may be important to you, will be if they allow traditional and roth contributions, if they allow conversions of other 401ks into the plan, etc.
If you want more freedom/flexibility, you can establish a checkbook solo401k(there's several options), but you can not only do the above, but you can also buy real estate and non traditional investments as well.
Hopefully your CPA is offering guidance on eligible tax deductions, but off the top of my head licensing fees, CME/CEUs, uniforms, home office if eligible, mileage deductions if eligible, malpractice/health insurance premiums, etc.
Consider opening a business checking account and a business credit card to help keep track of expenses easier. If you pursue rewards, etc. may want to consider a credit card that you can transfer them to your personal account.
Otherwise,
Solo 410k - depends on want to do with it. If you are planning to just do standard investments, index funds, ETFS etc. then you can easily open one up at any of the big brokerages (Vanguard, Schwab, Fidelity, etc). Some differentiation which may be important to you, will be if they allow traditional and roth contributions, if they allow conversions of other 401ks into the plan, etc.
If you want more freedom/flexibility, you can establish a checkbook solo401k(there's several options), but you can not only do the above, but you can also buy real estate and non traditional investments as well.
Hopefully your CPA is offering guidance on eligible tax deductions, but off the top of my head licensing fees, CME/CEUs, uniforms, home office if eligible, mileage deductions if eligible, malpractice/health insurance premiums, etc.
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:46 pm to Nighthawk504
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solo 401K
yes get this, i have one. they are great
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She is a 1099 contractor
not anymore is she is filing as a S-corp
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We met with a CPA to helps setup the LLC but any advice helps.
do not need a CPA for this. very easy to setup a LLC or corporation and be taxed as an S-corp.
will save money with no payroll tax on the K1 income and the deductions that apply to the K1 side really lower your income tax on that side also for the dividend distribution. write yourself a salary. you will now be a W2. use a payroll company for less headache. use a CPA for taxes. i do all this and it runs smooth as silk.
use a mileage log for employee mileage deductions.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:13 am to Fat Bastard
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This post was edited on 3/12/24 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 2/8/24 at 10:15 am to Odysseus32
right and if they(OP) do not have time there are many companies that will get your articles of incorporation and file with the SOS for you for a fee. They will make you the registered agent once they get you set up. Just remember to always file your annual report with the SOS online.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:36 pm to Nighthawk504
I’m not a cpa but I don’t see how you can be a S corp for something like a NP or professional. You are getting paid hourly basicallly. The entire point of an S corp for taxes is to pay your self a salary and revenue outside of that as business income that’s then taken as a distribution by the owning partners.
Maybe the irs technically allows it but it doesn’t pass common sense logic to me unless there’s something like a massive bonus .
Maybe the irs technically allows it but it doesn’t pass common sense logic to me unless there’s something like a massive bonus .
Posted on 2/8/24 at 12:41 pm to baldona
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I’m not a cpa
Maybe don’t post your opinion then.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 2/8/24 at 4:35 pm to baldona
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You are getting paid hourly basicallly.
Has diddley squat to do with it. My business charges hourly most of the time. changes nothing about the invoices i send to my clients to pay my company.
Hers can as well. real simple.
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is to pay your self a salary
yes, no shite
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and revenue outside of that as business income that’s then taken as a distribution
yes, no shite
What do you not understand?
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it doesn’t pass common sense logic to me unless there’s something like a massive bonus .
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 2/8/24 at 4:36 pm to tigeralum06
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I’m not a cpa
Maybe don’t post your opinion then.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 6:08 pm to baldona
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Wife Started a LLC / S Corp
I’m not a cpa but I don’t see how you can be a S corp for something like a NP or professional. You are getting paid hourly basicallly. The entire point of an S corp for taxes is to pay your self a salary and revenue outside of that as business income that’s then taken as a distribution by the owning partners.
The LLC is the contractor and clinic pays the LLC for services performed. Salary from LLC is paid to wife, along with distributions.
Posted on 2/8/24 at 6:33 pm to CHGAR
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The LLC is the contractor and clinic pays the LLC for services performed. Salary from LLC is paid to wife, along with distributions.
Sure, but that’s by no means the intention. She is getting paid for a singular persons job. CPA’s love to remind me that I need to be able to justify being able to hire someone with the salary I pay my wife and I. NP salaries are pretty easy to find, as an S corp to save money she is going to have to take significant distributions.
I get how it works, it is what it is. I just don’t see how this isn’t an audit waiting to happen.
No, someone like a medical professional is not like another contractor getting paid to show up.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 2/8/24 at 8:49 pm to Nighthawk504
Visit IRS website and search "Self employed". A helpful,page has some information. As a 100% owned LLC you can report the operations on Sch C of your joint 1040. Keep tract of any supplies, uniforms, license fees that can be deducted. Home office can open a can of worms that affect the basis of your home and may not be worth the deduction. Mileage deduction may be helpful is she goes to multiple locations. Daily commuting to and from home is not deductible.
If you currently prepare your own taxes you can probably complete her the Sch C. And other forms with the right tax software. I use HR Block Premium for my wife's business. You may want to make quarterly tax payments or increase the withholding on your pay to avoid a surprise tax bill next year.
If you currently prepare your own taxes you can probably complete her the Sch C. And other forms with the right tax software. I use HR Block Premium for my wife's business. You may want to make quarterly tax payments or increase the withholding on your pay to avoid a surprise tax bill next year.
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 2/9/24 at 2:49 pm to Fat Bastard
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will save money with no payroll tax on the K1 income
wrong
the income, since it is generated by her personal services, would be classifed as self-employment income on the K-1 and subjected to SE taxs
If she hired other people to work for her LLC, yeah the profits from their labor isn't subject to SE taxes if used an S corp vs. sole proprietorship
Posted on 2/9/24 at 8:50 pm to CEB
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If you currently prepare your own taxes you can probably complete her the Sch C
Sure. You can absolutely file a sch c for an s corp….
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:57 pm to texn
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wrong
the income, since it is generated by her personal services, would be classifed as self-employment income on the K-1 and subjected to SE taxs
WRONG!
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Ordinary income reported to an individual shareholder on Schedule K-1 from an S corporation is not considered self-employment income. Such income is investment income. It is thus not subject to self-employment tax, nor is it included in the calculation of earned income for the credits that are based on earned income.
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Ordinary business income includes any earnings your company makes through daily operations. Profit from selling a product or providing a service is ordinary business income.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 5:41 pm to Fat Bastard
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Fat Bastard
Bruhm I'm not a CPA and you sure as hell aren't either. The wife of OP isn't providing a nursing service, its providing a single nurse paid hourly.
You continually are bringing up items that don't apply.
ETA: The op really needed to figure some of this out before the wife accepted the job. Many contractors need to be paid 40-60% more than an employed position in order to be similar. There's shady employers that throw out 10-20% more and try to act like its a great gig, but its not.
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:42 pm to Nighthawk504
I have a single owner LLC and I’m the only employee. A SEP IRA works great for me. Much higher contribution limits than anything else I have seen. I love it.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:09 pm to auwaterfowler
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. Much higher contribution limits than anything else I have seen. I love it.
a solo401k has higher limits. the employee side and profit sharing side.
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Despite similar limits on annual contributions, the solo 401(k) can help you save more quickly. The SEP IRA allows you to save 25 percent of your income in the account. In contrast, with a solo 401(k), you can save up to 100 percent as an employee contribution, up to the annual threshold, and then you can flip to employer contributions at up to a 25 percent rate.
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The solo 401(k) allows participants 50 and older to make catch-up contributions to the account – $7,500 in 2023 and 2024 – while the SEP IRA does not have this feature. This bonus can really help out higher earners who are looking to stash away more cash and cut their tax bill.
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This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 8:50 pm
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