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WSJ: "Insurers Rake In Profits as Customers Pay Soaring Premiums"
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:05 am
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:05 am
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Consumer advocates say the industry’s rate requests can be a one-way street: policyholders are punished when insurers incur losses, but get little relief when they swing back to profitability.
During the pandemic, for instance, auto insurers raked in outsize profits as people stayed at home and got in fewer car crashes. Only one of the top 10 auto insurers, State Farm, cut rates by more than 10% in the two years through 2021, according to S&P Global Market Intelligence.
Since then, the 10 companies—Allstate, American Family Insurance, Farmers Insurance, Geico, Liberty Mutual, Nationwide, Progressive, State Farm, Travelers and USAA—have each won regulatory approval to boost auto-insurance rates by more than 20%, according to an S&P report this month. In 16 states, the two-year increase topped 30%, including jumps of 45.5% in Texas and 39% in Ohio.
... One factor in the run-up in insurance stocks: the recent willingness of regulators to allow large rate increases, even in states traditionally seen as tough on the industry. Last month, Allstate won approval for auto-insurance rate increases of 30% in California, 17% in New Jersey and 15% in New York. The company had threatened to stop renewing policies in those states after suffering losses.
“Wall Street assumes that insurers will continue to face little regulatory resistance to rate hikes,” said Heller of the Consumer Federation of America.
Analysts warn that the industry’s outperformance might not last.
S&P’s Zawacki said insurers are coming out of their most difficult period in generations. “Companies are not going to be quick to declare victory,” he said.
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Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:06 am to ExtraGravy
McCaren-Ferguson Act has gotta go
And while we’re at it, Glass-Steagall needs to return. If that makes me a liberal, so be it.
And while we’re at it, Glass-Steagall needs to return. If that makes me a liberal, so be it.
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 11:08 am
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:10 am to ExtraGravy
Increase cost of claims, employees, labor, etc. due to an increase in EVERYTHING. In order to have enough funds to cover expected losses, premiums have to increase. It sucks, but it's how it all works.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:18 am to ExtraGravy
They have to remake those profits they lost after the active hurricane year in 21.
It’s about profit. Most of these companies are backed by hedge funds who invest your premiums to make money and don’t get liquidated unless certain near unreachable criteria are met
It’s about profit. Most of these companies are backed by hedge funds who invest your premiums to make money and don’t get liquidated unless certain near unreachable criteria are met
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:25 am to ExtraGravy
Paying almost double for USAA in less than two years since switching. No claims or accidents in 11+ years. Glad I can pay for Gronk’s commercial and Jim Adler’s 5000 billboards.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:25 am to ExtraGravy
No article needed. We know this already and know insurers for the most part are crooks.
This post was edited on 1/25/24 at 11:26 am
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:28 am to ExtraGravy
Insurance... the buisness model that's entire purpose is to beat you out of the product you already bought and paid for. Just a huge scam.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:02 pm to ExtraGravy
"I bet my house is going to get destroyed" - me
"I bet it won't" - Farm Bureau
"How much you wanna bet?" - me
"$3000?' - Farm Bureau
"I'll take that action" - me
"I bet it won't" - Farm Bureau
"How much you wanna bet?" - me
"$3000?' - Farm Bureau
"I'll take that action" - me
Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:08 pm to ExtraGravy
1) The industry was built on taking in more than it paid out since inception (as all industries that aren’t charities are)
2) industry infiltrated the system, obfuscated costs and process to the point that people don’t know what their responsibility is until after the cost has been incurred.
They’re quite brilliant, honestly.
Morally defunct, but brilliant.
2) industry infiltrated the system, obfuscated costs and process to the point that people don’t know what their responsibility is until after the cost has been incurred.
They’re quite brilliant, honestly.
Morally defunct, but brilliant.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:20 pm to ExtraGravy
Tell us about loss trend, WSJ. This is so stupid to say when the majority of large auto liability claims are still open.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:21 pm to ExtraGravy
I'm not concerned.
Surely our insurance commissioner is diligently working to keep our rates down.
Surely.
Surely our insurance commissioner is diligently working to keep our rates down.
Surely.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 12:27 pm to ExtraGravy
It’s so strange how in our culture we are insured up to our neck….house, cars, health insurance, life, renters. But when I travel back to my old country in SE Asia, people don’t have any insurance. You’d think it’s crazy with no insurance but life is business as usual.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 1:59 pm to ExtraGravy
This is all a smoke screen to hide the fact they are applying DEI criteria to reduce the wealth gap between races AND use that as "just cause" with regulators for those allowed rate hikes which nets huge profits.
Because that's all DEI is, in any application, a justification to rip somebody off.
Because that's all DEI is, in any application, a justification to rip somebody off.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 7:48 pm to ExtraGravy
Thank your local scum Plaintiff Attorney.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:07 pm to ExtraGravy
So when they lost fifteen years of profit 16 years after they lost 100 yrs of profit they should wait a year and act like it will never happen again?
If Louisiana were to have on home an 85%Combined ratio which means that for every dollar they take in the make $0.15 it would take 24 years just to offset the losses in 2021. Is it reasonable to believe they won’t Have any more storms for 24 years? Is that a good bet?
If Louisiana were to have on home an 85%Combined ratio which means that for every dollar they take in the make $0.15 it would take 24 years just to offset the losses in 2021. Is it reasonable to believe they won’t Have any more storms for 24 years? Is that a good bet?
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:07 pm to ExtraGravy
quote:
... One factor in the run-up in insurance stocks: the recent willingness of regulators to allow large rate increases, even in states traditionally seen as tough on the industry. Last month, Allstate won approval for auto-insurance rate increases of 30% in California, 17% in New Jersey and 15% in New York. The company had threatened to stop renewing policies in those states after suffering losses.
That’s one way to stop tax receipts from bleeding as they drive more taxpayers out of state
Posted on 1/25/24 at 8:32 pm to ExtraGravy
Reading all of these threads about insurance makes me want to keep my shitty, paid off car and never buy a house
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