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re: True Detective S4 Season Long Thread
Posted on 2/19/24 at 3:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/19/24 at 3:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
I understand and agree with y'all about the bizarre choices made to wrap this thing up, but my biggest gripe is this was billed as cosmic horror. They leaned into it hard all season and then pulled the rug for a girl power statement. I mean how many times did we see the spiral? People got it tattooed on their bodies and were borderline obsessed with it. The only mention it gets is a shoe horned flat circle callback? Based on how much they played it up you would think clark was totally off the deep end and he's totally normal.
I came here for cosmic horror and you served us a really flimsy murder she wrote ending.
I came here for cosmic horror and you served us a really flimsy murder she wrote ending.
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 3:02 pm to BluegrassBelle
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Probably the most disgusting this about this whole deal is leaving Navarro's ending up to "interpretation" and managing to glorify her potentially suiciding out. When suicide rates among Native women are some of the highest in the country.
For all of the shitty writing throughout, that might be the worst IMO.
This is why I am predicting the "trauma" angle.
People are pushing this talking point about this season fixing the toxic masculinity of season 1, but this season is so much more misogynistic than season 1. Thinking about this is why I'm imagining that whenever this is scrutinized, they flip it to how the females are all weak and flawed because of past trauma (from masculine/patriarchal sources).
That's why I posted that meme and commentary about suicide. shite was unbelievable.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 3:03 pm to puffulufogous
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They leaned into it hard all season and then pulled the rug for a girl power statement. I mean how many times did we see the spiral? People got it tattooed on their bodies and were borderline obsessed with it. The only mention it gets is a shoe horned flat circle callback?
Dude the whale skeleton was in that shape
Posted on 2/19/24 at 3:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
well...that was something.
i really gave this season a chance. i didnt even hate season 2 as much as most people do.
i just cant really find anything redeemable about this S4.
the acting was bad
the story was bad
the direction was bad
the "symbolism" was bad
nothing made sense
so many conveniences made to just force the pieces together
going into this season thinking it would be enjoyable to probably in my top 5 list of most awful shows ive sit through. honestly, i most sat through the last 2 episode because my dog got use to sleeping in my lap on sunday night for the last few weeks and i didnt want to disappoint him.
i really gave this season a chance. i didnt even hate season 2 as much as most people do.
i just cant really find anything redeemable about this S4.
the acting was bad
the story was bad
the direction was bad
the "symbolism" was bad
nothing made sense
so many conveniences made to just force the pieces together
going into this season thinking it would be enjoyable to probably in my top 5 list of most awful shows ive sit through. honestly, i most sat through the last 2 episode because my dog got use to sleeping in my lap on sunday night for the last few weeks and i didnt want to disappoint him.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 3:44 pm to caro81
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i most sat through the last 2 episode because my dog got use to sleeping in my lap on sunday night for the last few weeks and i didnt want to disappoint him.
High praise right there. 
Posted on 2/19/24 at 3:44 pm to caro81
Don't know anything about the director, but seeing all the comments from the internet about her, I'm guessing shes just like the Star Wars director that got shitcanned? An activist over art?
Posted on 2/19/24 at 3:56 pm to BluegrassBelle
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glorify her potentially suiciding out.
Come on man...she "heard something calling her out there". We would all do it, right?
Posted on 2/19/24 at 4:01 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Thank heavens the writers could only draw this nonsense out for 6 episodes instead of 12.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 4:11 pm to Lsut81
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But her native name means out of the dark and into the light or something like that
And honestly, I'd have no problem with her learning that through her vision with her Mom when she walked out the first time. And it having some kind of meaning/symbolism in the storyline. They had at least built up some story to that in her background.
But then going out there AGAIN. And Danvers being like "Hey if you need to go do that, just uh "come back"".
Just frustrating. The bones were all there at the beginning to have a decent story but they wanted to cram a bunch of shite into the last two episodes without any real build-up or reasonable explanations for, well, anything.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:07 pm to BluegrassBelle
Remember, the writer and director said she had this original story when HBO approached her wanted it to be a TD season
She threw the spiral and other shite just for fan service. Her own words
She threw the spiral and other shite just for fan service. Her own words
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:20 pm to dallastiger55
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Remember, the writer and director said she had this original story when HBO approached her wanted it to be a TD season
She threw the spiral and other shite just for fan service. Her own words
If this is true that kinda sucks for the writer/director.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:29 pm to ShootingsBricks4Life
She said it in an interview. She didn’t want to do it at first because she didn’t see how it could tie to a true detective story.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:35 pm to dallastiger55
Can someone remind me why Jodie Fosters boss and the other lady wanted to put the case to rest and said it was an avalanche?
Why did they not want them to investigate?
Also, is Navarro dead? What was she walking out in the snow supposed to be?
Why did they not want them to investigate?
Also, is Navarro dead? What was she walking out in the snow supposed to be?
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:49 pm to dallastiger55
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Jodie Fosters boss and the other lady wanted to put the case to rest and said it was an avalanche?
The mine owner bc their numbers were being fudged by Tsalal so they could keep mining and destroying the environment.
The boss, likely because he was on the take.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:24 pm to massiveattack
What the frick is this shite?
This was horrible
Edit/ catching up on the thread now and. As I was watching the janitors storm the facility.. I said out loud “
Is this fricking serious? What am I watching ????”
This was horrible
Edit/ catching up on the thread now and. As I was watching the janitors storm the facility.. I said out loud “
Is this fricking serious? What am I watching ????”
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 7:40 pm
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:12 pm to Lawyered
Just watched season finale. Holy frick. I called the ham fisted out of place time is a flat circle call back. That was stupid but the female Eskimo swat team thing is probably the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen in a TV show. Holy frick that was bad. The finale took this show from disappointing to down right insulting. What a waste of time.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:18 pm to Madking
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Correct, it’s like they wanted to throw us curve balls to leave what happened in doubt but didn’t care whether it made any sense. Just awful writing.
All of the Eskimo gods and spook stuff was just misdirection to hit you with a matriarchy revenge story in the end. My wife was pissed to no end.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:43 pm to themetalreb
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Come on man...she "heard something calling her out there". We would all do it, right?
It's l'appel du vide, or call of the void, and most of us are sane enough to not listen to it, but this woman somehow gets a pass because of toxic masculinity or oppression or some bullshite.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:44 pm to DesScorp
This is my first and last season of true detective. I can't believe I was baited into such a dumb finale.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:47 pm to Damone
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You better start asking the right frickING questions
On what day did God create True Detective S4, and why didn’t he rest that day, too?
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