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re: Hello from a GT fan
Posted on 12/9/08 at 2:02 am to BamaScoop
Posted on 12/9/08 at 2:02 am to BamaScoop
I do hope you know the reason Tech is not in the SEC has mostly to do with Alabama. Dodd took us out for 3 reasons. 1. At the time, we were the best team in the SEC, we had the highest attendance (61k avg) and we were the only atlanta sports team. 2. Scholarship limitations put on the SEC. Dodd said that he wouldn't have a player committ to playing for Tech and then take away his scholarship once he got into school to get the numbers down to the requirement. He said if the player made a committment to the school, the school should return the favor. Tech had huge squads back then because of this. 3) the Holt/Graning incident...you'll hear different stories about this, so I'll let you research what it is, but in short, One of the bear's players cheap shotted one of ours, and it was drawn out in the Atlanta and Birmingham papers.
Here's the story from a book called Dodd's luck:
Bobby Dodd insisted there was no other reason he left the SEC, other than the 140 Rule. The 140 Rule stated a college program could only have 140 football and basketball players on scholarship at any one time. The teams were allowed to sign up to 45 players a year, but could not exceed the 140 Rule.
Dodd would not allow any of the football players choosing Tech to be dismissed from Tech, because they were not good players. Dodd said, “it is not the recruits fault for not making the squad, it was the coaches fault for misjudging their talents”. If a recruit came to Tech, he would stay on a football scholarship until he graduated.
Dodd would sign about 30-32 players a year to meet the guidelines, but the other schools in the SEC were offering 45 scholarships a year. Those players, not good enough to fall under the 140 Rule, had their scholarships withdrawn and sent packing before the end of each year. Dodd insisted, the recruiting of athletes by this method amounted to nothing more than a tryout for a scholarship.
Dodd thought it unfair and would not withdraw scholarships from his players. He wanted the SEC to limit the amount of scholarships to about 32 per year. This would keep the other schools from offering 45 scholarships, picking the best, and sending the rest packing.
A vote was to be taken by the presidents of the colleges on the issue, and Dodd made it clear, Tech would have to leave the SEC unless the rule was changed. Dodd said he would live with 10, 20, 30, 40, or even 50 recruits per year as long as he did not have to chase any of his players off.
The presidents were split six for Dodd’s position and six against. Bear had promised Dodd he would get his president to vote for Dodd’s position, which would have changed the rule.
When the meeting was held, Bryant did not show up and the Alabama president voted against Dodd’s position and the 140 Rule was upheld. Tech’s president immediately walked to the podium and announced Tech was withdrawing from the SEC. Bryant never told Dodd why he reneged on his promise.
Some year’s later there was a movement to get Tech back into the SEC, but the two main schools to fight it the most and keep Tech from re-entering the SEC were Georgia and Auburn.
The ACC immediately offered Tech the opportunity to join its conference, but Dodd thought Tech could not compete in basketball in the ACC. Dodd decided to try the independent route as Notre Dame, Miami, and Penn State were faring well as independents. Tech was well known as a football power at that time, so Dodd figured the independent route would be the best for Tech.
Here's the story from a book called Dodd's luck:
Bobby Dodd insisted there was no other reason he left the SEC, other than the 140 Rule. The 140 Rule stated a college program could only have 140 football and basketball players on scholarship at any one time. The teams were allowed to sign up to 45 players a year, but could not exceed the 140 Rule.
Dodd would not allow any of the football players choosing Tech to be dismissed from Tech, because they were not good players. Dodd said, “it is not the recruits fault for not making the squad, it was the coaches fault for misjudging their talents”. If a recruit came to Tech, he would stay on a football scholarship until he graduated.
Dodd would sign about 30-32 players a year to meet the guidelines, but the other schools in the SEC were offering 45 scholarships a year. Those players, not good enough to fall under the 140 Rule, had their scholarships withdrawn and sent packing before the end of each year. Dodd insisted, the recruiting of athletes by this method amounted to nothing more than a tryout for a scholarship.
Dodd thought it unfair and would not withdraw scholarships from his players. He wanted the SEC to limit the amount of scholarships to about 32 per year. This would keep the other schools from offering 45 scholarships, picking the best, and sending the rest packing.
A vote was to be taken by the presidents of the colleges on the issue, and Dodd made it clear, Tech would have to leave the SEC unless the rule was changed. Dodd said he would live with 10, 20, 30, 40, or even 50 recruits per year as long as he did not have to chase any of his players off.
The presidents were split six for Dodd’s position and six against. Bear had promised Dodd he would get his president to vote for Dodd’s position, which would have changed the rule.
When the meeting was held, Bryant did not show up and the Alabama president voted against Dodd’s position and the 140 Rule was upheld. Tech’s president immediately walked to the podium and announced Tech was withdrawing from the SEC. Bryant never told Dodd why he reneged on his promise.
Some year’s later there was a movement to get Tech back into the SEC, but the two main schools to fight it the most and keep Tech from re-entering the SEC were Georgia and Auburn.
The ACC immediately offered Tech the opportunity to join its conference, but Dodd thought Tech could not compete in basketball in the ACC. Dodd decided to try the independent route as Notre Dame, Miami, and Penn State were faring well as independents. Tech was well known as a football power at that time, so Dodd figured the independent route would be the best for Tech.
Posted on 12/9/08 at 2:05 am to bossross90
I got that history of jazz final tuesday... How the hell are we supposed to do the listening? He doesn't even tell us what songs are up.
Posted on 12/9/08 at 2:06 am to BamaScoop
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His name is Bear
Man, I had a Shih Tzu I also named him Bear.
I gave him away. should have sold him.
He really pissed me off with his hair every time he went outside to use the bathroom.
Posted on 12/9/08 at 2:07 am to TigerBandMan
it is suppose to be done by hints...like hell give you a hint on who it is and you have to decide who it is off of them...I know one person that took it already and got a 50 something
Posted on 12/9/08 at 2:12 am to bossross90
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keep Tech from re-entering the SEC were Georgia
Those Dirty Dogs
Posted on 12/9/08 at 2:14 am to bossross90
I know all about it, my attorney represented the BAMA player at the time.
This post was edited on 12/9/08 at 2:17 am
Posted on 12/9/08 at 2:18 am to TigerBandMan
hey tigerband...after you take the test come back on and tell me how you did. I might have some questions for you.
This post was edited on 12/9/08 at 2:19 am
Posted on 12/9/08 at 2:30 am to LSUtiger89
Well shite... 50 is no good. At least i can weasle my way through music a little. I have a friend taking it tomorrow so I will start a topic in the O-T lounge tomorrow around 9.
Posted on 12/9/08 at 2:35 am to TigerBandMan
ok kool. well try and make it through this
Posted on 12/9/08 at 8:33 am to bossross90
quote:You just clogged up the arteries of about 50 coonass hearts, and probably contributed to the obesity and heart attack rate of 100's more Louisianians.
Gumbeauxs - ponchetrain or seafood rotini (best bannana's foster ever...feeds 2 fatasses with no entree beforehand)
Dreamland - full rack, no sides but loaf bread
Fogo - tell everyone but filet man to go away
five guys - bacon cheese dog,bacon cheese burger and a regular fry (large cost more, but same size)
varsity - chili cheese dogs, onion rings, fries, frosted orange, apple pies, bacon cheese burger
scalini's - rolls are the best thing there, but the canneloni en bianca and the seafood pasta (anything with their white sauce or their rotella sauce which is a mix of white and red)
JR cricketts - however you like your wings
pappadeaux's - ponchatrain, bread pudding a must
pappacito's - special dinner for 2 (basically its fajita's but it comes with crazy stuff like lobster tails...3 different kinds of cheese dip for an app.
Posted on 12/9/08 at 10:54 am to bossross90
I'll back you up on Gumbeaux. Best food in the metro area, in my opinion.
For breakfast, go to the Silver Skillet on 14th St about 3 miles from the dome. Country ham breakfast is da shizzle. You know it's a great Southern place when you have to go through the kitchen to get to the restroom.
For breakfast, go to the Silver Skillet on 14th St about 3 miles from the dome. Country ham breakfast is da shizzle. You know it's a great Southern place when you have to go through the kitchen to get to the restroom.
Posted on 12/9/08 at 11:41 am to bossross90
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Fogo - tell everyone but filet man to go away
Also the bananas in carmalized sugar they leave on the table are amazing. I'm pretty sure I cleaned out the Chicago location on my last visit.
Posted on 12/9/08 at 12:39 pm to LSUtiger89
I am an LSU grad from St Bernard living here in ATL...Gumbeaux's is ok, I have been half dozen times, but Henry's in Acworth is better. But why come here to ATL and eat seafood. Just go enjoy a fat steak at Ruth's Chris near the dome or try some fine dining in Buckhead like Chops or Bones.
This post was edited on 12/9/08 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 12/9/08 at 1:48 pm to TigerBandMan
hey tigerband...I didn't see a thread on the OT. How did you do on that final?
Posted on 12/9/08 at 3:35 pm to bossross90
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Fogo - tell everyone but filet man to go away
I would recommend letting the guy with the Top Sirloin (House Speciality) come around.
Posted on 12/9/08 at 3:44 pm to BamaScoop
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What tests do you have tomorrow? I am 41 and don't miss that shite at all.
I actually found a cure for it, and then YOU get to give the test. Works for me and even helped me get past almost ten years of nightmares of taking tests when I was in grad school.
Posted on 12/9/08 at 4:56 pm to bossross90
good post GT fan. better than some on here.
Posted on 12/9/08 at 4:56 pm to bossross90
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bossross90
That might be the best post I've ever read.
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