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re: Gus Malzahn
Posted on 12/6/08 at 10:16 am to pioneerbasketball
Posted on 12/6/08 at 10:16 am to pioneerbasketball
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But its tulsa.
I see what you're saying but he hasn't been in the college coaching ranks for long... I still am of the opinion that he needs more time.
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Posted on 12/6/08 at 10:24 am to SLC
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That's my point, he would install a better passing threat for your team.
You need to a bit more research on LSU.
Posted on 12/6/08 at 7:45 pm to moneyg
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You need to a bit more research on LSU.
Ok, we'll see. I've watched LSU almost as much as AR, you have problems. But that is fine with me.
Posted on 12/6/08 at 7:56 pm to SLC
slc...your only problem is that you dont know that you are an idiot 
Posted on 12/7/08 at 12:01 am to EasyE
Let me repeat what this board said 3 years ago.
Texas Tech runs the offense. Please if you do not know what you are talking about stop posting lies. Mume ran this offense at Kentucky during his time there. Coach Malzahn also put the Wildcat in at Arkansas and LSU still has problems with it. Arkansas also won the SEC West the year he coached. BTW just because someone comes from the "High School" level does not mean he is less of a coach. I hope you know most of the coaches at the college level got their start from political pull not coaching ability. Do you have any idea how many great coaches have started from the H.S. level and become great college and NFL coaches? You are a joke. Go pawn your mindless thoughts somewhere's else.
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He is a high school coach and runs a high school offense. His offense would never work in the ncaa.
Now all of a sudden people are interested in him.
Some of you guys need to eat crow.
Texas Tech runs the offense. Please if you do not know what you are talking about stop posting lies. Mume ran this offense at Kentucky during his time there. Coach Malzahn also put the Wildcat in at Arkansas and LSU still has problems with it. Arkansas also won the SEC West the year he coached. BTW just because someone comes from the "High School" level does not mean he is less of a coach. I hope you know most of the coaches at the college level got their start from political pull not coaching ability. Do you have any idea how many great coaches have started from the H.S. level and become great college and NFL coaches? You are a joke. Go pawn your mindless thoughts somewhere's else.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 12:03 am to STEALTH
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Do you have any idea how many great coaches have started from the H.S. level and become great college and NFL coaches?
GERRY FAUST BABY!
Posted on 12/7/08 at 12:38 am to 40ozJazz
Buddy I would love to have Malzahn here at LSU running the show. He did a great job at Arkansas the one year he was there and they won the SEC West so I would say he has proved himself. He has been at Tulsa for 2 years and they have had one of the Top 5 Offense's in America the last 2 years. You take his creativity, aggressiveness, offensive philosophy and OUTSIDE of the box thinking and put it with our athletes and it would be absolutely sick. He will get a big time gig again soon because with the way he is producing offensive numbers it's only a matter of time before he gets his chance again. He is for real and wish we had him. 
Posted on 12/7/08 at 12:56 am to Jason
Your going to see him somewhere nice very soon, watch.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 1:15 am to STEALTH
I wish that somewhere was LSU!!! 
Posted on 12/7/08 at 2:30 am to Jason
You people realize that when we had a qb, Crowton led LSU to it's best scoring offense ever, right?
Posted on 12/7/08 at 3:20 am to SLC
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Ok, we'll see. I've watched LSU almost as much as AR, you have problems. But that is fine with me.
Oh really? LSU was ranked #5 in total offense and #5 in scoring offense in the SEC while having two QBs that play more like HS QBs than 1A QBs.
So our OC had our worst offensive situation in 8 years and had us as the 5th best offense in the SEC. And you think we have real "problems" with our offensive coaching? Get real.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 3:32 am to SLC
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When a running back gets hot and does well, he is benched.
fricking Larry Porter(reportedly)
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LSU didn't have a backup QB ready to run the offense.
Eh. There was only so much that could be done. It is obvious that JLee wasn't mentally capable of playing at a SEC level. Hatch isn't physically capable of playing a SEC level. JJ hadn't been on campus that long.
Our problem was that after RP signed we didn't get any QB recruits for a while and then when we did we got guys that weren't able to run Crowton's system. It wasn't necessarily a failure to coach the QBs but a problem with our recruiting structure.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 3:42 am to flucobaseball
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You people realize that when we had a qb, Crowton led LSU to it's best scoring offense ever, right?
Yeah I realize and remember it well. But I view that fact with a little more depth than maybe you or many people would. I don't just look at stats and go whoooopiieee records, blah, blah.
Some reason's we have those records is we played in 2 triple overtime games that would not have happened if the play calling wasnt so vanilla to let other teams come back on us instead of doing like what OU does and put the nails in the coffin. With the skill guys that LSU has they should roll up serious numbers year in and year out in my opinion. Is Crowton good? Yes he is but he's too predictable and to Vanilla when we get a lead on someone and takes the foot off the accelerator and I can't stand that passive play calling approach. I have a mind set to pour it on and make sure the game is out of reach and let my guys play ball instead of getting conservative like we did against Kentucky, Arkansas, Ohio State, Alabama, etc. Or this year against Bama and Arkansas was enough to make me puke.
Do you watch the way OU attacks teams every year or how Florida, USC do it when they are up? They keep the peddle to the metal and hammer their opponents unlike LSU who constantly just lets teams that have no business being in games stick around and then we have this high drama BS every year at he end of games to try and pull a victory out. 
If you watched the way the play calling drastically changed after LSU got up on ARK 30-14 and the way the staff handcuffed JJ then you would understand what I'm talking about.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 8:32 am to Jason
You still have to put the points up bro, and that's what we did. Sure the playcalling seemed suspect this year and that's because we had a qb that couldn't make the throws. Crowton has a great passing offense. If you watch, we have people running free over the middle all game, but Lee wasn't making the throws. That's not a reflection on Crowton. Crowton did the best he could with a struggling QB.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 8:34 am to flucobaseball
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If you watched the way the play calling drastically changed after LSU got up on ARK 30-14 and the way the staff handcuffed JJ then you would understand what I'm talking about.
Which would be a time to call the game in a safer way. The D just didn't step up. How was he handcuffed? They still did passing plays. JJ wasn't as good in the second half as he was in the first.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 12:59 pm to flucobaseball
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You still have to put the points up bro, and that's what we did.
Umm, No we did not. After getting up 30-14 the coaching staff called plays that were an attitude of "lets get a few 1st downs and get out of here with a win". If you had the defense that LSU had this year would you have been happy with a 2 TD lead early in the 3rd quarter to feel good enough that you were going to win the game? I'm sorry but I didn't and if I was coaching I wouldn't either and I would have kept the peddle to the metal and gone for at least 2 more scores to put the game totally out of rich. But, LSU has never been that way; it was the same way under Dumbo Fisher before Crowton got here. It's absolutely absurd. Give me a Play caller that attacks like OU, Florida, USC, Boise State, Arkansas, Texas, Texas Tech, OSU and others do and then I'll be happy. I don't like a passive and playing not to lose mentality and I think it usually causes more harm than good when you play that way and I can think of endless examples of how it has harmfully affected LSU over the years. Even if a team has a great or good defense I would still continue to put nails in the coffin and put away any doubt about the game’s ending result.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 1:15 pm to flucobaseball
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Which would be a time to call the game in a safer way. The D just didn't step up. How was he handcuffed? They still did passing plays. JJ wasn't as good in the second half as he was in the first.
Honestly? With the way our pass defense has been this year I would have called the dogs off so to speak after a 4 TD lead in the 4th quarter. But then again, I'm a very aggressive play caller so I would have kept the peddle to the mental until the final gun with just a few safer calls salt and peppered in there. Arkansas's defense was garbage and we had showed with the aggressive nature that we couldn't be stopped but when we changed the game plan is when we began to fall apart at the seems and we played not to lose while Arky played to win and kept fighting to win while we prayed the clock would hurry up and run and get out with a "quality win against a quality football team".
Damn right the defense didn't step up; they haven't all year thus proving my point of not taking your foot off the gas on offense. They still did passing plays? I'm sorry but I don't look at how many times someone throws or if they "throw passes" to judge something. I look at if they (offense) are taking what the defense is giving you which LSU DID NOT! Waiting to put all the pressure on a QB for a 3rd and long play every drive is not what I would call smart in any situation. After the last TD drive in the 3rd quarter we only went to the air 8 more times and most of the time that was on 3rd down. We also went back to the ole hand off up the middle with Charles Scott into 8-9 man fronts that was not getting anything the whole day. One of the main reasons JJ was not as affective in the second half is because of the bad situations they put him in and began to take a step back in the offensive philosophy.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 1:24 pm to Jason
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OU, Florida, USC, Boise State, Arkansas, Texas, Texas Tech, OSU
I think you have a little bit of the grass is greener on the other side mentality. I agree with aggressive playcalling, but there were times last year in 2007 that I felt our aggressiveness was undermined by our execution.
For example, in the UK game, we were up 27-21, and Flynn underthrew Lafell on a deep post that ended up being intercepted. Our playcalling at that point was still aggressive, but it was a poor execution that undermined it, and led us to have very little confidence in the rest of our play calls for that game. In another example, after Bama had just extended their lead to ten points, Flynn hit Byrd on a beautiful fade for a TD. The execution and aggressiveness were on the same page, and we called and played aggressively for the rest of the game. If anything, I think we should criticize Miles/Crowton for getting too gun-shy when things go wrong. While I think Miles is in general a conservative coach, we still have been aggressive. Sometimes, I think the playcalling reflects how little confidence the staff has, rather than an innate lack of aggressiveness.
Perhaps you could elaborate with some examples of your point. Maybe I am misunderstanding.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 1:28 pm to FullBloodedTiger
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The only reason we didn't have a passing threat was because the one we had was an egotistical, selfish, coke-snorting diva who our coach, admirably, kicked off the team.
You can't install something that you don't have.
Your comment was stupid.
This comment was stupid also. It's not admirable to kick somebody off a team after his 8th screw up or however many it was. It's just "about damn time," not admirable.
Posted on 12/7/08 at 1:41 pm to crazy4lsu
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I think you have a little bit of the grass is greener on the other side mentality
That is not what I'm saying at all. I mention those programs because they call games offensively the way I do. LSU does not.
You make good points and I agree with you that just because a mistake is made it is stupid to stop being aggressive, that is a wonderful point.
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