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re: Louisiana Roads
Posted on 10/15/23 at 4:21 pm to TheFranchise
Posted on 10/15/23 at 4:21 pm to TheFranchise
THIS. ^
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Posted on 10/15/23 at 4:45 pm to Caddy Bayou
SW resigned many months ago, but what did he do wrong exactly?
Posted on 10/15/23 at 5:27 pm to tigerlife36
Louisiana = Graft and bloated state Gov
Posted on 10/15/23 at 5:32 pm to EST
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would be willing to pay an extra 25 cents per gallon.
Do NOT do that.
That has been done many times but mysteriously the roads never get any better
Posted on 10/15/23 at 5:36 pm to tigerlife36
It still baffles me when I go back home to the area of southwest LA I grew up in and go to my cousins house and I still have to go down multiple gravel roads. I mean really !! Potholes everywhere and my vehicle is completely covered in dust after I leave.
There are multiple streets all gravel and neighborhoods off the main gravel road and tons of people. It’s embarrassing
There are multiple streets all gravel and neighborhoods off the main gravel road and tons of people. It’s embarrassing
Posted on 10/15/23 at 6:31 pm to doubleb
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Arkansas folks pay less tax per gallon than La. does.
But they have a half cent sales tax for roads certain new or upgraded 4 lane roads. The tax was approved in 2013 and extended in 2020. It generates about 293 million annually.
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 10/15/23 at 6:32 pm to GeauxJeaux78
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what did he do wrong exactly?
What did he do, period, besides draw a paycheck?
Posted on 10/15/23 at 8:26 pm to GeauxJeaux78
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SW resigned many months ago, but what did he do wrong exactly?
His design build fiasco for the new Miss River Bridge to Jim Bernhard’s shell, even though it scored 3rd out of 3 bids.
Just one of several.
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:12 pm to tigerlife36
If you drive to Arkansas a lot from North La then surely you hop on the newer 220/49 interchange & head up 49 North to Texarkana, right? 49 North is really nice & smooth as butter.
The brand-new interchange (new base gate) from 220/I20 to Barksdale AFB is complete on Bossier side (just waiting for Feds to compete Barksdale side (imagine that) & The much needed I-20 repairs through Bossier & Shreveport has just started. You must not travel very much to places in South La like Lafayette & especially Baton Rouge. Shreveport Bossier has probably the best road infrastructure in the state.
The brand-new interchange (new base gate) from 220/I20 to Barksdale AFB is complete on Bossier side (just waiting for Feds to compete Barksdale side (imagine that) & The much needed I-20 repairs through Bossier & Shreveport has just started. You must not travel very much to places in South La like Lafayette & especially Baton Rouge. Shreveport Bossier has probably the best road infrastructure in the state.
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 10/15/23 at 11:44 pm to TheFranchise
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A good place to start is the feckless, useless idiot in charge of LaDOTD.
He been gone for months.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 12:25 am to meangene323
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That $160 will pay for one stop sign to be installed surely not enough to replace all our aging infrastructure.
it would blow my mind if there is anything, anywhere that a government related entity could get done for under 200 dollars.
I work for DoD and was once told it costs 10k dollars to move desks. same building. right down the hall. 10k.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:02 am to tigerlife36
I remember when I was stationed in Arkansas that there roads were great. I would drive home to DeSoto Parish through Hope. You could close your eyes know the moment you crossed into Louisiana.
That was 30 years ago so I things may have changed for the better.
That was 30 years ago so I things may have changed for the better.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 4:42 am to GeauxJeaux78
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18+ billion backlog in preserving roads and bridges. Roads will only get worse unfortunately. The tiny unfelt $0.05 gas tax that noone wanted would add $250 million a year to preservation. $250m to an ever-growing $18b of need. And it didn't pass. Oh well. The need grows worse and the public still whines about road conditions. More revenue is needed. Public can't stomach or believe it. Other states have been doing it better and right for YEARS. That's the difference. Look at TX and FL. Have any of you driven through there without driving through some sort of toll? Turnpike? Electronic tolling? Works great. Louisiana peeps hate them and doesn'twant them. I'll never understand how the "you use it, you pay for it" concept is that difficult to be understood. Yes, our roadway bases our awful...especially in the southern part of the state. But that is one component. A typical asphalt road should be rebuilt (not resurfaced....rebuilt) every 15-20 years with a resurfacing at the halfway point. That hasn't been happening. Depending on the funding source, the local district gets $10 million to put towards 1,500 miles of need. At $1 to $1.5 million per mile to construct (rehab), that doesn't go very far. So, cold mix potholing and skin patches is what you get until something changes.
That’s nice and all…
But what most that I speak with object to is the fact that the taxes they pay ALREADY are, if not outright wasted on un-necessary projects, they are grifted to the point that only a percentage makes it to the actual point of use.
People I speak with are fed up with this waste, and don’t want to throw any more good money at bad.
FIX the wasteful spending of CURRENT tax money FIRST, then come hat-in-hand and we can have a conversation.
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 4:44 am
Posted on 10/16/23 at 5:02 am to GeauxJeaux78
quote:How did this happen?
an ever-growing $18b of need.
Also is there really a need for certain things if they’re done without for a decade, two decades, so forth?
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 5:08 am
Posted on 10/16/23 at 5:04 am to GeauxJeaux78
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Louisiana peeps hate them and doesn'twant them
Generations told everything is "free" by Huey Long forward.
Used to be a toll on the Sunshine Bridge. A pittance, but it paid for upkeep/maintenance. Not only did people fight to get rid if it, but a shithead local pol got the Legislature to permanently bar any tolls on the bridge, ever.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 7:23 am to Junky
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Business also helps when your state government is business friendly. Louisiana ran off its tax base.
Everyone here is over-complicating the issue. The roads suck because the State’s broke arse can’t afford nice stuff. It’s no different than your house and car. If you’re broke, you don’t have $$ to fix your shite.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 8:06 am to Warfox
Another aspect to this unfortunate disaster is that whenever the state rebuilds a highway it has to be built at federal standards which means sidewalks and handicap ramps have to be included to get the fed money..
I spoke with a contractor who was doing some sidewalk repair work on Florida Blvd. downtown (yes ,this is a state highway) in front of the Chase tower (old LNB tower). He informed me that just the handicap pad that goes on the concrete is $400 a piece. For just one intersection he needed eight. This drives up the price of project like crazy.
I spoke with a contractor who was doing some sidewalk repair work on Florida Blvd. downtown (yes ,this is a state highway) in front of the Chase tower (old LNB tower). He informed me that just the handicap pad that goes on the concrete is $400 a piece. For just one intersection he needed eight. This drives up the price of project like crazy.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 8:41 am to Marshhen
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in all fairness the majority of our road system is built on old marshes that make it almost impossible to maintain.
Additionally, LA only gets funding from the 1985 gas tax. Most state legislatures have found additional funding's for roadway.
LA is still crippled by a system of roads built by Huey P Long's political payouts. Most states maintain 20-25% of the road surface in their states, LA id over 30% last I checked. 5-10% of the roads under the state jurisdiction do not belong their to maintain.
Posted on 10/16/23 at 9:30 am to Warfox
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That’s nice and all…
Proceeds to disregard facts and fabricates an alternate reality.
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Everyone here is over-complicating the issue. The roads suck because the State’s broke arse can’t afford nice stuff. It’s no different than your house and car. If you’re broke, you don’t have $$ to fix your shite.
This is the answer. We have terrible roads because we get what we pay for.
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