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Why Tribalism Took Over Our Politics

Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:08 pm
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24280 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:08 pm
Here you go, all you lizard brain fools. Your brain is hard wired for hostility and conflict, and most of you are too prone to giving into your emotion to push beyond that initial response to get to reasoned debate and decency.

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Ahead of his arrest on Thursday in Georgia, Donald Trump repeatedly told his supporters about the legal peril he faced from charges of election interference. But the danger wasn’t his alone, he said. “In the end, they’re not coming after me. They’re coming after you,” he told a campaign rally.

It was the latest example of the Republican former president employing a potent driver of America’s partisan divide: group identity. Decades of social science research show that our need for collective belonging is forceful enough to reshape how we view facts and affect our voting decisions. When our group is threatened, we rise to its defense.


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The split in the electorate has left many Americans fatigued and worried that partisanship is undermining the country’s ability to solve its problems. Calling themselves America’s “exhausted majority,” tens of thousands of people have joined civic groups, with names such as Braver Angels, Listen First and Unify America, and are holding cross-party conversations in search of ways to lower the temperature in political discourse.


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Yet the research on the power of group identity suggests the push for a more respectful political culture faces a disquieting challenge. The human brain in many circumstances is more suited to tribalism and conflict than to civility and reasoned debate.


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Trump, in responding to his indictment in Georgia for conspiring to overturn his 2020 loss in that state, amplified the sense of threat by telling a party gathering that they were engaged in a “final battle” that he described as “an epic struggle to rescue our country from the sinister forces within who hate it.” The criminal prosecutions, his campaign said in a fundraising email Thursday, were designed “to intimidate you out of voting to save your country.”


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Party allegiance can affect our judgment and behavior, many experiments show. When Shanto Iyengar of Stanford University and Sean J. Westwood, then at Princeton University, asked a group of Democrats and Republicans to review the résumés of two fictitious high-school students in a 2015 study, their subjects proved more likely to award a scholarship to the student who matched their own party affiliation. People in the experiment gave political party more weight than the student’s race or even grade-point average.


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In a landmark 2013 study, Dan Kahan, a Yale University law professor, and colleagues assessed the math skills of about 1,000 adults, a mix of self-described liberals, conservatives and moderates. Then, the researchers gave them a politically inflected math problem to solve, presenting data that pointed to whether cities that had banned concealed handguns experienced a decrease or increase in crime. In half the tests, solving the problem correctly showed that a concealed-carry ban reduced crime rates. In the other half, the correct solution would suggest that crime had risen.

The result was striking: The more adept the test-takers were at math, the more likely they were to get the correct answer—but only when the right answer matched their political outlook. When the right answer ran contrary to their political stance—that is, when liberals drew a version of the problem suggesting that gun control was ineffective—they tended to give the wrong answer. They were no more likely to solve the problem correctly than were people in the study who were less adept at math.


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Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119106 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:09 pm to
Cope.
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
3855 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:11 pm to
We've been fighting against statists since the first government was formed.

Not tribalism; simply the inherent yearning for freedom.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30378 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:12 pm to
Just get yourself a parrot and teach it to say “Trump’s fault, Trump’s fault” and nothing else. Then you’re set to go.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11647 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:16 pm to
You would likely make a good bit of money if you wagered that those studies you cite are garbage. They make good fodder for press releases and publication in well known, high impact journals, and every incentive is there to falsify data, as recent scandals at places like Harvard have shown us.
Posted by meldawg399
nola
Member since Oct 2008
1168 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:19 pm to
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Why Tribalism Took Over Our Politics


Voting Rights Act is a good start. When you have a law that assumes people can only be represented by people that look like them, we wo t have a functioning country based on the levels of diversity we have here.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31268 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:26 pm to
Now Trump is employing Rules for Radicals?
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Member since Jul 2019
4574 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:28 pm to
This is all fine but the tribalism and divisiveness started in overdrive 8 years before Trump ever came down the escalator.

Obama was anything but the Great Uniter.

There’s never been room for “reasoned debate and decency” when it comes to modern Progressivism and it’s “woke” mantra.

Trump hasn’t been one to build consensus, even within the GOP at present - but let’s not get amnesia and act like all this shite started with him and everything was fine and dandy, shites and giggles prior.

Trump was a result, not a cause.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27972 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:41 pm to
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Yet the research on the power of group identity suggests the push for a more respectful political culture faces a disquieting challenge. The human brain in many circumstances is more suited to tribalism and conflict than to civility and reasoned debate.

You posted this quote, convinced it was supporting your point?

We have tried a more respectful political culture, all the way up until 2016. And it ended up with our opponents having no fear in arresting their leading contender, for speaking out against them

You just debunked your entire putrid dissertation in one fell swoop

Nicely done
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:43 pm to
The tin foil hat crowd isn’t going to like rhis
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101732 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:44 pm to
Does extreme narcissism come from a complete lack of self awareness or vice versa? Or I guess maybe they are just two sides of the same coin.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:49 pm to
A couple good reads that weren’t liberal when they were written and I’m not sure where they would land now.

Walt Truett Anderson “Reality Isnt What it Used To be”

Michael Perenti “ Land of idols”
Posted by financetiger38
Member since Nov 2022
3182 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 11:54 pm to
BLM and LGBTQ movement along with democrat politicians and their media calling everyone that disagreed with them racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. started this cycle we are in before Trump was ever elected president.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30092 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 12:08 am to
99% of the time, whatever dims are accusing you of is what they themselves are guilty of.

Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14520 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 1:04 am to
Things that make you go, hmmm
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68480 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 2:30 am to
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Your brain is hard wired


Racism is hard wired into the human brain too.

The only way to get rid of all this is to get rid of the human brain.

But when we all get chips implanted and are patched into and controlled by the AI can your utopia be achieved.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124310 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 6:21 am to
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Why Tribalism Took Over Our Politics
Lack of quality education, indoctrination, and absence of intellectual curiosity.
Posted by mgdtiger
Member since May 2006
2860 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 6:39 am to
Tribalism has always been in politics. It’s why George Washington warned against political parties John Adams and Thomas Jefferson said some nasty things about each other. Difference in last 40 or so years is the development of internet and the ability of information to get out. Allowing regular joe to become more involved.
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
46495 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 6:42 am to
I didn’t read the whole article but from what you quoted this author is guilty of exactly what he’s claiming everyone else is. He only lists trump and quotes CNN.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
35053 posts
Posted on 8/27/23 at 6:59 am to
One either joins a tribe which reflects their values or one is forcibly consumed by a tribe that doesn’t. A tribe is more powerful than an individual. The current division is about Values. The Value at issue is essentially the power of Tribalism (Government) vs the Individual Freedom (Constitutional Principal) of the individual. It seems that this ‘Essay’ is a ploy to blame those who value Constitutional Values over Collectivist Government and unite and form a ‘tribe’ to fight against such is somehow an immoral or impractical action. Bottom line: I’m for the whole Human species working compassionately to lift the quality of life for all, per Jesus’s Gospel of Mercy. But I am neither for or believe that it is moral or practical to attempt a form of tribal coercive action based on lies and violent force directed at the opposition ‘tribe’ to accomplish that goal. This essay is ‘word salad’ cooked up to blame the Right in Redneck speak. Won’t fly, when the souls of people’s kids are forced to worship/value Pagan principles. Tribal warfare coming over the hill.
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