re: 47 Louisiana churches have left United Methodist Church over gay marriage, LGBTQ issues

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Dem Methodists is something else.

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As a Catholic this is hard to say and it sickens me but I think in our lifetime we will see this same acceptance from the Vatican.

The queers don't give a warm crap on Monday what the Word is. They have no respect for the Church - any church. If they did, they would form their own church or join one of the many that already cater to them.

Instead, they seek to take over each and every denomination until there are none left. They are being led by Satan but are blinded to it.
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This is the leftists plan to destroy organized religion from within. They play the long game.

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My cousin is a priest and I know for a fact that he's gay AF

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How do you know this? Have you seen him kissing a dude or watching gay porn. If he is gay but does not act on it and counsels his parishioners against it then he is acting accordingly. Read the Beatitudes. You may not think it applies to this but they do.

In other words I do think the Catholic Church has a homosexuality problem in its ranks. If you are Catholic and you know definitively that your cousin/priest is actively living in sin then you need to report him to the Bishop because that is scandalous.

Believing in God doesn’t do anything. I believe in food but if I don’t eat I get nothing from it. Church is the same way but people have one bad experience at a church and then believe all churches are bad. Every person alive is a sinner including every pastor ever. Yet they are held to higher standards for no reason at all. And when they mess up people think Christianity has failed. Grace is God given for this exact reason. If a restaurant gave you bad food you wouldn’t quit eating you would just find somewhere else to eat. You can’t quit a church because they didn’t do everything exactly as you wish.

But as soon as churches start having a worldly view different than that of the Bible they are no longer a church. People seek acceptance and tolerance of sin instead of forgiveness and grace for their sin and that’s the core problem in the world.

A whole lot of people in this thread should take a step back and consult John 8:7

My wife's dad is a minister for a couple tiny methodist churches in the middle of nowhere. One of the churches voted to leave UMC. The other is holding out out of pure stubbornness. He's told them that if there's any formal change in the UMC doctrine that states homosexuality is okay or if they try and force him to accept it he's done.

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They have to keep moving the goal posts, or else my generation and younger will continue to stop going. There isn’t one church standing in this country that will survive without money.

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I keep seeing this argument and disagree with it. One, you are seeing an immediate hit to membership with the churches leaving (10% and counting). This is going to be a huge financial blow. I also believe those younger generation with more progressive ideals aren't the younger group joining the church anyway. In the end church is losing it anyway. Either a slow bleed over time or a quick chunk like what is happening now. The UMC will not make up this chunk with new younger followers because of their new progressive stance on this issue.

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However, in marriage Scripture is very clear - man and woman - with Christ as the Head of the union. Condoning same gender marriage is inconsistent with Scripture and worse; makes a mockery of Christ and the bride (the Church).

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Yessir. Exactly that.

And that’s why the relentless decades long PR campaign to make homosexual “marriage”seem harmless, perfectly natural, and even beneficial to society was used to get the camel’s nose into the tent.

Make no mistake, Americans have been subjected to modern advertising’s and public relation’s’ best efforts to promote homosexuality as a wholesome lifestyle and demonize and marginalize opponents to it likening them to knuckle scraping, gap toothed, snake handling KKKers in order to shame and silence any dissenting views.

If you don’t want to read After The Ball: How America Will Conquer It’s Fear &Hatred Of Gays In The 90s written by Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen at least read this brief review. After The Ball

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What? On the church level I disagree. With regards to US law, I don’t see how same sex marriage could be banned. The US is not a theocracy.

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I have zero issue with the gheys & thespians coupling and having all the same rights legal rights and tax benefits as anyone else.

My issue is them using the word “marriage” or “Holy Matrimony.” It’s an abomination.

I've yet to hear a good explanation as to why the "traditionalists" are the ones that have to leave. From my understanding, a global vote of the UMC was held which voted to maintain the current "traditional" policies. It was then decided that the church would split. If an individual church voted to maintain current doctrine, they would leave the UMC.

If my years of watching wrestling taught me anything, I thought it was loser leaves town.