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re: Louisiana’s Redfish Population Has Collapsed

Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:48 am to
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
14055 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Eliminate the Pogie boats


Once again, LA politics....




Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:18 am to
That continues up the east coast as well.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
14055 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 10:38 am to

Not any more.

quote:

The menhaden industry once ranged along much of the East Coast, but only Virginia allows it now, albeit with ever-tightening catch limits and harsh penalties when the industry breaks the rules.


https://www.nola.com/news/environment/article_e5e151d6-d2e5-11ec-b93b-d36274b6c562.html
Posted by Roy Curado
Member since Jul 2021
1029 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:21 pm to
Todd Masson is a rude idiot. He is not very friendly.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16645 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

Todd Masson is a rude idiot. He is not very friendly.


what happened baw?

Posted by Roy Curado
Member since Jul 2021
1029 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:24 pm to
go watch his videos.
Posted by WillyL
Member since Jan 2017
152 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:53 pm to
I do not know Roy, but he is absolutely correct on his opinion of the Todd. He is the most egotistical person I have ever meet. The old saying about buying someone for what he is worth and selling him for what he thinks he is worth was written for Todd.
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
14846 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 5:34 pm to
Sounds like yall got some stories to share with the rest of the class...
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:12 am to
quote:

He is the most egotistical person I have ever meet.


was the first comment I heard when this video was discussed amongst friends. Dude must be quite the tool, cause I haven't heard one person speak well of him
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
26138 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Not any more. quote:The menhaden industry once ranged along much of the East Coast, but only Virginia allows it now, albeit with ever-tightening catch limits and harsh penalties when the industry breaks the rules.


Everyone of those Atlantic Coast pogy ships has relocated to Louisiana.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:51 am to
Yep, can confirm. Fished the Atlantic this year. Made ~ 100 miles off shore. Never saw a pogey boat, and cast netted shitload of pogies.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
4425 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:56 am to
Is the population collapse happening in certain areas of the state? I've been in Grand Isle and Fourchon 4 times in the last 3 months and hammered reds every trip.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32728 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 3:59 am to
quote:

Step 2: no more bowfishing

Step 3: no more guided fishing trips

Step 4: eliminate all fishing recreational activities so the wildlife can "let nature run its course"


Or just lower the limit to 3 a person and make Redfish a game fish that can't be shot with a bow.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32728 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 4:06 am to
quote:

If you are in a bay boat or skiff then you are most likely using a trolling motor in those areas instead of mud motors
All the bow fisherman I know use blow boats not mud motors and they don't kick up any sediment, especially compared to some of those 100+lb trolling motors.

Those dudes do it for the sport of it, you could eliminate redfish from bow fishing snd get very little push back, except from the diehards.
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12914 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 6:02 am to
quote:

Those dudes do it for the sport of it, you could eliminate redfish from bow fishing snd get very little push back, except from the diehards.


CCA attempted to have a bill submitted to ban bowfishing for reds, there was considerable push back.
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
2724 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 6:49 am to
quote:

No doubt on a weekend, the grand isle/leeville complex also has more bowfisherman than anywhere else in the state. If you had a helicopter, how many fishing rigs would you find in that same complex during the day? 300?


I literally fly for a living and the amount of recreational boats in the GI/Leeville/Cocodrie are since COVID has skyrocketed. Weekdays there will be 50 boats and on weekends with good weather triple that easily.

Not to mention 1/3 of the fricken marsh is gone after IDA. The Leeville area has lost at least 1000 acres of marsh. Areas that used to be shallow ponds and drains is now just an open water flat.

As far as the bow fishing comments, anti-bow fishing people are just being ignorant. I go bow fishing a lot in the area. With 5 or 6 guys every time we go, and we rarely ever limit out. Never shoot under slot reds. The majority of the fish we shoot are sheepshead anyway.
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1839 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 7:44 am to
Thanks for that. I’ve been bowfishing now for 17 years. I’m always shocked how this board thinks it’s a huge deal. I would say we see another bowfishing rig on 25% of trips, most of those being on weekends.

Most peoples exposure to bowfishing consists of going on a bachelor trip with one of the guides in leeville. Nowhere else in the state has even close to that much pressure

If it is the number of fish being taken from bowfishing, that’s just a horrible take. The rod and reel fleet takes 100x more any day of the week. It would be a laughable stat.

I could get behind it changing fish patterns or effecting their behavior because they are being pressured in a different way than usual. If they came out and said bowfishing has population level impacts because of the method of take, I’d be cool with stopping.

In a lot of ways it may be like dog hunting. The way they are being hunted may cause negatives beyond just the ones you kill.

I have high confidence that commercial fishing, private/public water access, and habitat loss are much larger threats to recreational fisherman. My bowfishing posts always get downvoted so I’ll shut up.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16645 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 8:35 am to
quote:

All the bow fisherman I know use blow boats not mud motors and they don't kick up any sediment, especially compared to some of those 100+lb trolling motors.

Those dudes do it for the sport of it, you could eliminate redfish from bow fishing snd get very little push back, except from the diehards.


We know different bow fisherman. The ones I see have dual mud motors
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 9:35 am to
quote:

blow boats


Are as much if not more destructive to coastal marsh compared to surface drives. Airboats smash vegetation and cause soil depression. The marsh is that sensitive around grand isle and leeville.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32728 posts
Posted on 8/25/22 at 10:13 am to
quote:

We know different bow fisherman. The ones I see have dual mud motors
They're morons then, you're going to disturb the water so much it's Like hunting but at the same time shaking a tree.
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