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re: Nathan Fielder - The Rehearsal - new show on HBO

Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by DiamondDog
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Posted on 8/14/22 at 9:18 pm to
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came here and said my peace and moved on. But checking back in today, I’m glad I’m not that lone guy who didn’t get the humor.


I'm usually game for quirky humor and I never write anything off immediately. I'm sure this is working up to something...

That said, I know this kind of depression when I see it. The guy is clearly lonely and wants an actual family.

I know this is a staged outline, but this guys magnum opus of depression kind of reminds me when I used to drink...before I had a wife and kids.

This is the kind of crap you get though when you give this kind of comedian a huge budget and resources with no general script/plan.

Are you getting genius or just one man's cry for help masked by the facade of television?
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:19 am to
This is a good (old) article that sheds some light on Nathan’s point of view when he’s creating:

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Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:22 am to
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I’m glad I’m not that lone guy who didn’t get the humor.
I think a lot of people (myself included) thought this was going to be an elevated version of Nathan For You, especially after watching episode 1. It’s obvious now that this show is another thing entirely, and it’s definitely more of a serious thing.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 11:27 am to
Count me in the number that is not feeling this

Thought the first episode was fairly funny and the rest of the show has been entirely different, and somewhat depressing.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 11:27 am
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 12:08 pm to
I definitely prefer Nathan For You.
I find this show to be interesting and entertaining, but I probably won’t rewatch it. I could watch Nathan For You over and over.
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 2:46 pm to
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Kor on cash cab



OF course they lost. He doesnt even have a masters!
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 8/17/22 at 8:48 pm to
I still like the show, but it’s getting harder to separate reality from scripted due to the nature of how everything is in this show.

Like, how could he possibly ever do another season of the rehearsal after this?
Posted by Box Geauxrilla
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Posted on 8/18/22 at 1:21 pm to
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That said, I know this kind of depression when I see it. The guy is clearly lonely and wants an actual family.

Keep in mind that you’re watching a character in a show that he wrote, directed, executive produced, and is the star in.

If you have watched any of his content, you should know not to take anything at face value.
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 8/19/22 at 2:52 pm to
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Like, how could he possibly ever do another season of the rehearsal after this?
Rolling Stone - Nathan Fielder to Get a Second Shot at Human Connection With Season Two of ‘The Rehearsal’
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NATHAN FIELDER WILL get another chance to manufacture some human connection — and keep putting himself through the emotional ringer — now that The Rehearsal has been renewed for a second season.

HBO announced the news Friday, Aug. 19, ahead of the final episode of the show’s celebrated first season. “Nathan has sparked such a lively conversation with The Rehearsal,” said Amy Gravitt, HBO’s executive Vice President of programming, in a statement. “We have no idea where season two will take us, and that is the delight of this boundary pushing show from a truly singular talent.”

The Rehearsal premiered back in July, arriving five years after the end of his acclaimed Comedy Central series, Nathan for You. The new show somehow managed to up the surreal, hyper-meta stakes of its predecessor: Where Fielder “helped” struggling businesses gin up more attention and customers with outlandish, incredibly ineffectual schemes, The Rehearsal found him roping regular people into equally ridiculous situations by “helping” them prepare for major life events through elaborate rehearsals.

“The comedy doesn’t go away just because the concept is so strange, and the Fielder Method in every sense is so ludicrous,” Rolling Stone’s Alan Sepinwall wrote in his review of Season One of The Rehearsal. “But the rehearsals elicit genuine feelings from many of the participants in ways that can feel as surprising as they are cathartic.”

Along with The Rehearsal, Fielder is prepping another new series, The Curse, with Emma Stone and Uncut Gems co-director, Benny Safdie. Set to air on Showtime, the series centers around a couple whose life is upended by a curse as they try to have a child and star in their own controversial HGTV show.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:43 am to
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It started hot to trot with first episode but now I feel like I'm watching one man's depression play out through a social psychological experiment.

the first episode was hilarious and had me hooked just like NFY. This whole pretend mom plot would’ve been fine too condensed to an episode but it’s not as good being played out as a series. Too serious but I still find it entertaining.

Just finished ep 5. I wonder if that Jewish tutor was scripted or if that was real. She called the mom an anti-Semite for believing in Jesus and nothing more. She’s just as bad as the mom not wavering if that bit is real. Then at the end the way she talks about Israel and Jews reminded me of the dad with Greeks from My Big Fat Greek Wedding. That made me laugh. The Jews invented everything

Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 8/21/22 at 9:34 am to
When Episode 6 ended, I halfway expected to see this:



Posted by Monahans
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Posted on 8/21/22 at 1:45 pm to
Im really surprised there isnt more negative reaction to what the show did to those kids. It's so messed up at first I thought Fielder was doing it to kind of expose the way these child actors are treated by their parents and Hollywood.

That kid thinking Nathan was his real Dad was heartbreaking. People liked that shite?
Posted by UnluckyTiger
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Posted on 8/21/22 at 5:32 pm to
Not sure what I just watched with Episode 6
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 12:00 am to
That was weird. I have no idea what this man is trying to accomplish. He seems caught in some kind of weird loop of madness.

Sad about that kid not having a dad.

I did LOL when the adult was brought in as an Adam stand in to then see him outside smoking in overalls

I think I may be exiting this for good. There's no purpose and with 15 min left I just skipped through it. I'm not sure where the comedy is at this point. Or why this is receiving positive reviews.

How anybody can view episodes 2-6 and say...let's renew this turdburger, I don't know. It kind of derivative and meta...but not in a clever way.

Maybe I'm just missing something.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10677 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 12:06 am to
Apparently that was the Season 1 finale. I'm just confused. Weird crap.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:58 am to
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That kid thinking Nathan was his real Dad was heartbreaking. People liked that shite?


Well, that wasn’t planned and it wasn’t supposed to be funny for the most part. It made me sad, because of the reality of the situation. I didn’t get the impression that Nathan was making fun of the kid, but actually tried to help him.

But yeah, that finale was kinda weird. Not sure how I feel about it.
Posted by Monahans
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 8:46 am to
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Well, that wasn’t planned and it wasn’t supposed to be funny for the most part. It made me sad, because of the reality of the situation. I didn’t get the impression that Nathan was making fun of the kid, but actually tried to help him.

But yeah, that finale was kinda weird. Not sure how I feel about it.

It really bothered me, probably extra because I have young kids right now. The whole show I thought about how sad it is these child actors have these awful parents or more likely one parent. Then of course this kid ends up thinking Nathan is his real dad. What else is he supposed to think? Nathan comes off as a real pos with his little experiment.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 9:47 am to
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That kid thinking Nathan was his real Dad was heartbreaking. People liked that shite?
There are people who enjoy disturbing things as "entertainment" just because they know that it makes other people uncomfortable. It makes them feel like they're above it all.

And you always have a faction that just like seeing others in distress.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67234 posts
Posted on 8/23/22 at 1:01 pm to
I feel like the exact target audience for this show. The humor is so absurd, the situations so meta and macabre. I connect with it yet cringe at such a fundamental level.

For me, I grew up not knowing about autism or “the spectrum”. I did not realize that was what was wrong with me. I had a very difficult time understanding social cues, making friends, and connecting with people. I did not understand them nor them me. I often felt detached, like an observer more than a part of society.

To try and connect with people, I first turned to comedy, but that didn’t work how I’d hoped. What I found funny just wasn’t funny to most people l. Next, I tried mimicry. I was essentially raised by a television set, so I sought out behavioral role models that I felt people would connect with. I started adapting those characters’ mannerisms in my regular life to see how people would respond to them. Over time, I learned what worked and what didn’t in order to have a sorta successful social life. I was still somewhat awkward, but came across as relatively “normal” in most surface level conversations.

This technique became increasingly challenged when I found myself in my first real long term romantic relationship. I constantly found myself internally documenting her behavior, studying what made her upset verses happy. Learning how to diffuse conflict. I tried to treat her like some sort of human rube goldberg device where inputs always had set outputs. No matter how much I tried to understand her, her wants, her needs, my data always felt out of date. The same approach that solved the previous conflict would fail disastrously the next time. Much like the French in 1940, I found myself consistently flummoxed fighting the previous war, and learning all the wrong lessons.

I had learned to anticipate my partner’s needs to an extent, but the mental strain of constantly running simulations in my head to prepare for various conflicts was getting too much for even my autistic brain to handle. No matter what I did, it always ended the same way, and in real life, it did too. She left me, and I was broken. After 8 years in that relationship, I had to relearn how to interact with other people. I now live a life full of anxiety and regrets. I can’t seem to live outside of my own head or forgive myself for my mistakes. It is incredibly cathartic watching Nathan play through the same themes. I even once dated a single-mother for a while and had her child get very attached to me, much like that poor child did with Nathan. This show is simultaneously my ultimate fantasy (being able to literally simulate difficult simulations so that I can know before hand if there exist positive outcomes to certain interpersonal conflicts) and my ultimate nightmare (reliving my same mistakes through simulations that are inherently flawed on account of the impossibility of accurately knowing other people and predicting their emotional behaviors).

Watching him play house and basically get an abbreviated parenthood experience of raising a growing child reminded me of dating that single-mother, baby-sitting my niece and nephew, and reminding me of the fact that I am incapable of actually having a child of my own. It is entirely fascinating, horrifying, hilarious, and sobering all at the same time.

In Nathan, I essentially see what would happen if the most selfish, insecure, and controlling parts of myself were given an almost unlimited budget and power to control my life. It’s…unbelievably accurate as to how I imagine it would play out for me. This show is like a wake-up call.
This post was edited on 8/23/22 at 1:08 pm
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 8/23/22 at 4:21 pm to
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That kid thinking Nathan was his real
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Well, that wasn’t planned

I honestly was waiting for the camera to pan out during that scene and reveal the mom of that kid to be an actor.

It was freaky when Nathan "became" her in the mirror and was wearing her sweatshirt, nail polish, and back-of-hand tattoo later on (and ultimately seeing his arse crack in her pants).

I don't know how many levels we've gone at this point, or what to believe anymore.



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Apparently that was the Season 1 finale

This show has been renewed for Season 2, BTW.
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