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Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:42 pm to Sulu
The police are doing what they've been conditioned to do, on a societal level. Sit back and do nothing, exploiting the "no obligation to protect" loophole. Over the last 3 years, there've been like 50 frickin cities where cops were ordered to stand down and watch as antifa and BLM burn shite down and attack people.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:43 pm to V Bainbridge
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It does look like the procedures followed weren't effective, which should be the focus instead of playing the blame game on people thrust into an impossible situation.
How is it an impossible situation? if you consider it impossible, shouldn't you turn in your badge? You have a gun on your hip, and train with it regularly. If you aren't the one who should be going in and stopping the slaughter of these elementary kids, who should it be? You can't just stand out there until the fricking animal runs out of ammo.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:44 pm to LSUbest
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:45 pm to Sulu
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The Media Is Starting To Turn on the Responding Law Enforcement Officers
So are most people on this board.
What's your point?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 2:57 pm to dstarsntigers
We found the criminal in the thread. Assuming multiple arrests.
By the way, responding cops are not supposed to just run into the building when they show up. There are such things as multiple shooters and scopes for rifles. Their lives are important too.
By the way, responding cops are not supposed to just run into the building when they show up. There are such things as multiple shooters and scopes for rifles. Their lives are important too.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:08 pm to Crimsonians
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By the way, responding cops are not supposed to just run into the building when they show up. There are such things as multiple shooters and scopes for rifles. Their lives are important too.
More important than the children being slaughtered while they listen to it happen? Someone should be running into the building to put a stop to it, as soon as humanly possible. If not the cops, who?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:11 pm to troyt37
The team that is trained to enter the building and sweep. You guys think this is the military. All cops are not trained on clearing a building. If all cops were trained like that, there would be no need for SWAT, etc.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:12 pm to troyt37
quote:If the cops (or anyone else) don't want to go in. That's fine. I don't have claim on anyone else's life. But stopping others willing to do so... very different.
Someone should be running into the building to put a stop to it, as soon as humanly possible. If not the cops, who?
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:13 pm to V Bainbridge
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It does look like the procedures followed weren't effective, which should be the focus instead of playing the blame game on people thrust into an impossible situation.
If it's an impossible situation for the on scene law enforcement then why in the hell hold up a parent who doesn't have to follow some fricking protocol in order to try and save a life.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:19 pm to Crimsonians
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The team that is trained to enter the building and sweep. You guys think this is the military. All cops are not trained on clearing a building. If all cops were trained like that, there would be no need for SWAT, etc.
I'm sure SWAT has it's place, but if that means cops sit around with their dicks in their hands while kids are being slaughtered, then why even respond? Just wait for the perpetrator to run out of ammo, and hit him with a traffic violation as he's leaving.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:19 pm to mtb010
First off after many of these school shootings, the police are not supposed to wait outside.
A guy who hasn't started shooting yet then stayed executing kids and teachers while the police waited on sat which will take a long time to arrive.
This whole thing is literally crazy.
I am the first to support cops most of the time. However this shooting is going to disappear because the cops totally fricked up.
People are going to say you can't trust the police to protect you or even kids. In fact they may stop you from protecting your kids.
I understand don't rush in clubs if you think it is going to be a hostage situation. The minute he stays shooting they are supposed to enter.
They didn't.
A guy who hasn't started shooting yet then stayed executing kids and teachers while the police waited on sat which will take a long time to arrive.
This whole thing is literally crazy.
I am the first to support cops most of the time. However this shooting is going to disappear because the cops totally fricked up.
People are going to say you can't trust the police to protect you or even kids. In fact they may stop you from protecting your kids.
I understand don't rush in clubs if you think it is going to be a hostage situation. The minute he stays shooting they are supposed to enter.
They didn't.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:20 pm to Sulu
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Absent a clear case of cowardice, it looks to me the officers were following regulations based on information they knew about the shooting at the time
No. Stop.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:32 pm to thetempleowl
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I understand don't rush in clubs if you think it is going to be a hostage situation. The minute he stays shooting they are supposed to enter.
No one knows if this is true. Everyone needs to take a breath here. The last I read was that most of the kids were shot prior to LEO arriving. So they didnt hear shots to cause them to immediately eneter. Then one LEO yelled into the classroom, heard the guy shoot a girl and immediately busted into the room and shot the evil bastard.
That was an account of a 4th grader that survived the event.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:35 pm to Sulu
"Cops should only stop active shooters from killing kids if people on the internet are nice to them"
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 12:26 am
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:39 pm to Crimsonians
You’re a dumbass boot licker that doesn’t know protocol
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:47 pm to Midtiger farm
Its not like you're trying to rush Hans Gruber in the Nakatomi Tower. FFS, its always some psycho dumbass just spraying easy targets (small children) with lead.
These guys act like its the Ghangas Khan of 2022 in the school with a band of highly trained assassins.
These guys act like its the Ghangas Khan of 2022 in the school with a band of highly trained assassins.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:51 pm to Sulu
Then they need to fricking quit if they don’t want to do their damn job.
You going to defend these pieces of shite not going in to help kids in peril?
More and more police showing their true colors.
You going to defend these pieces of shite not going in to help kids in peril?
More and more police showing their true colors.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:52 pm to V Bainbridge
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Most of the reports out there look pretty damn bad for the responding officers.
Because a lot of cops now have no business being a cop.
It’s a result of the left’s war on police. They are scraping the bottom of the barrel for officers.
Posted on 5/26/22 at 3:52 pm to PaperTiger
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No one knows if this is true. Everyone needs to take a breath here. The last I read was that most of the kids were shot prior to LEO arriving. So they didnt hear shots to cause them to immediately eneter. Then one LEO yelled into the classroom, heard the guy shoot a girl and immediately busted into the room and shot the evil bastard.
That was an account of a 4th grader that survived the event.
That may be accurate, but doesn't sound right either. Why would a cop be yelling, giving up his position and causing kids to do the same (if they had one) when he doesn't see the shooter or hasn't eliminated the threat. Heat of the moment, I guess, but either earlier in this thread or another on it makes it sound like he helped get that little girl killed.
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