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re: Any Mizzou fans out there? What the Hell is going on?

Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:07 pm to
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The media here in Kansas City is basically saying that MU is gone from the Big 12 it just can't be legally announced yet and the only question is when they will be allowed to go to the SEC. That and chastising Missouri for not believing in the stability of the Big 12 and running off to the SEC.


Thanks!

Very informative and a good view from ground zero.

Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:10 pm to
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When A&M went to Dan Beebe with complaints that the Longhorn Network wanted to show high school games, which wasn't part of what everyone had agreed to, he told us that we were easily replaceable.


Is this true?
If it is, why didn't A&M jam this up the media's arse when they crucified you guys for leaving?
Posted by Stripes314
St. Louis
Member since Oct 2011
5033 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:12 pm to
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Is this true?
If it is, why didn't A&M jam this up the media's arse when they crucified you guys for leaving?


The Conference has said both TAMU and Mizzou were replaceable. Then proceeded to beg and plead for us to stay.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:13 pm to
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He was asking if they are properly called Texas University or University of Texas.


Longwhorns covers it for me.

Posted by hoginthesw
DFW
Member since Sep 2009
5329 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:16 pm to
nah. short horns
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:22 pm to
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The Conference has said both TAMU and Mizzou were replaceable. Then proceeded to beg and plead for us to stay.


Amazing!

The difference between the SEC and Bevo 9 is night and day.

For example:

There's no secret that Kentucky and Vandy have been bottom dwellers in football for a long, long, long time; more importantly, neither one has spent SEC type money on their program or facilities and yet they get the same money and same vote and same input as the Bama, LSU, Florida, and Auburn's of the world.

Why?

It's the same reason a Tide fan, or LSU Tiger fan, or Gator fan, or War Eagle cheers for another SEC brother when playing anyone else in any game...it's called a family. Kentucky and Vandy are accepted for all their faults because they are part of the matriarchal family which is SEC football.
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 1:23 pm
Posted by sfury
Member since Oct 2011
285 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:52 pm to
"It's the same reason a Tide fan, or LSU Tiger fan, or Gator fan, or War Eagle cheers for another SEC brother when playing anyone else in any game...it's called a family. Kentucky and Vandy are accepted for all their faults because they are part of the matriarchal family which is SEC football."

That sounds awesome. What were used to is we allow you to be in our conference so lick our boots.

The big 8 was much more like the SEC attitude. Nebraska and Oklahoma were always on top but we all felt equal and there was not much fighting. I liken the Big 12 to being in an abusive marriage where you felt trapped and had no voice.

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 1:54 pm to
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It's the same reason a Tide fan, or LSU Tiger fan, or Gator fan, or War Eagle cheers for another SEC brother when playing anyone else in any game...it's called a family.


This is a completely foreign concept to me, but I think I'll learn to like it quickly! As of now, my only feelings regarding Texas A&M's Big 12-2-1+1-1+1 rivals is that they die in a fire
Posted by Touchdowns4LSU
Baghdad On The Bayou
Member since Oct 2004
7524 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:02 pm to
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The big 8 was much more like the SEC attitude. Nebraska and Oklahoma were always on top but we all felt equal and there was not much fighting. I liken the Big 12 to being in an abusive marriage where you felt trapped and had no voice.
Agreed. Probably the only reason the SWC broke up was the hated infighting among members. You would never ever find a SWC team cheering another SWC team. Talk about family feuds and it is still going on today with those who were abandoned when the breakup occurred.
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 3:13 pm to
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The big 8 was much more like the SEC attitude. Nebraska and Oklahoma were always on top but we all felt equal and there was not much fighting. I liken the Big 12 to being in an abusive marriage where you felt trapped and had no voice.


One of my great SEC stories comes from the 2008 Sugar bowl. Georgia was playing Hawaii and the only national interest in the game was if the Bulldogs could stop the air attack of Hawaii.
I took my family to the game and we were dressed in our LSU attire and we sat in the Hawaii section.
We were asked no less than 20 times why we were there if we were LSU fans?
Our response was: "Here to cheer on a SEC brother!".
Everyone just shook their heads.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2138 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 3:27 pm to
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Is this true?
If it is, why didn't A&M jam this up the media's arse when they crucified you guys for leaving?
We did. Our PR guys did a very good job this time, after being caught flat-footed last year. Believe me, A&M has won the PR battle this time around.

Regarding the "t.u." references, the real reason for this has to do with, surprise, the arrrongance of the Horns (sips, as we call them). Up until sometime after WWII, all state higher educations other than the University of Texas were colleges, or institutes (in the case of Texas Tech), so, when sips referred to their school, they referred to it as "The University" rather than "the Univeristy of Texas" (and heaven help you if you overlook the capital "T" in "The University") as a reminder that their institution was a "univeristy" and yours was a mere college. An example of this is the body that governs Texas high school competition, which is named the University Interlscholastic League, with "University" meaning UT-Austin (prior to integration, black school competition was run by the Prarie View Interscholastic League at Prarie View A&M). A&M's use of the lower case "t.u." was meant as a reminder that they weren't the only institute of higher education in the state, nor even the oldest.

From a practical standpoint, UT-A doesn't work either--they have a branch in Arlington that uses the UTA moniker. So, I'd suggest you guys just go with the flow and let UT be Tennessee and t.u. be those queers in Austin.
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 3:32 pm to
I've always seen UTk and UTx, but I prefer to use Texass.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19215 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 3:58 pm to
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re: Any Mizzou fans out there? What the Hell is going on? (Posted on 10/25/11 at 2:02 p.m. to sfury)

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The big 8 was much more like the SEC attitude. Nebraska and Oklahoma were always on top but we all felt equal and there was not much fighting. I liken the Big 12 to being in an abusive marriage where you felt trapped and had no voice.
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Agreed. Probably the only reason the SWC broke up was the hated infighting among members. You would never ever find a SWC team cheering another SWC team. Talk about family feuds and it is still going on today with those who were abandoned when the breakup occurred.



Proximity yields hatred.

Duke/UNC
Bama/Auburn
...just about every SWC school vs the other.

They all pull from the same pools of potential students & student athletes. You can have one or two blood rivals in a conference, but you can't have a whole conference of blood rivals that would openly cheer the demise of another.
This post was edited on 10/25/11 at 3:59 pm
Posted by RhodeIslandRed
Adrift Off the Spanish Main
Member since Aug 2009
3175 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 4:05 pm to
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"t.u." references


Finally an explanation. I always thought t.u. was just Aggies being childish and not very creative. This explanation sounds good to me.
Posted by sfury
Member since Oct 2011
285 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 4:24 pm to
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Our response was: "Here to cheer on a SEC brother!".
Everyone just shook their heads.


I know I used to feel that way about most of the Big 8 Universities and even some when in the Big 12 at first. But things got worse as the years went by.

One exception though I think you would be hard pressed even in the Big 8 days to find KU fans rooting for Missouri or Missouri fans rooting for KU against anyone. It's dated back to the civil war and still lives on today. I take that back. I did root for Kansas to beat Texas.

Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 4:25 pm to
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KU fans rooting for Missouri or Missouri fans rooting


Teams like UT/Bama and Bama/UA still do this, but keep a bar of soap handy to wash out their mouths afterwards.
Posted by texasaggie08
Triple D, TX
Member since Dec 2010
1408 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 4:35 pm to
I'm sure we'll learn to "hate" Bama and LSU and others.....but I can't imagine developing the kind of hatred I have for texas and baylor, where I want their programs to get the death penalty for all eternity.

OSU and TT and OU are pretty high on the hate list too.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 4:37 pm to
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One of my great SEC stories comes from the 2008 Sugar bowl. Georgia was playing Hawaii and the only national interest in the game was if the Bulldogs could stop the air attack of Hawaii.
I took my family to the game and we were dressed in our LSU attire and we sat in the Hawaii section.
We were asked no less than 20 times why we were there if we were LSU fans?
Our response was: "Here to cheer on a SEC brother!".
Everyone just shook their heads.



I was at that game with my UGA fan brother and my Valdosta State fan sister, wearing a UGA shirt and an LSU hat

Posted by sfury
Member since Oct 2011
285 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 4:45 pm to
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Teams like UT/Bama and Bama/UA still do this, but keep a bar of soap handy to wash out their mouths afterwards.


I can safely say I have only needed that bar of soap when KU played Texas. Otherwise I refused to even watch them play if it was anyone other than Missouri.
Posted by daboman of Aggieland
Columbia, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1330 posts
Posted on 10/25/11 at 4:47 pm to
I don't hate any Bevo & bitches school except for t.u. I definitely look down on Tceh tards as a lower form of life, but they earn that reputation every time we go there.

Baylor is pathetic, but before Ken Starr went uber-Baylor I was thinking that they would be a nice non-conference game. Now they can go frick themselves.

OU and OSU, I've enjoyed all of my road trips there (baseball only) and will miss making them. I don't like Bob Stoops, but I don't have any problems with OU.

I also have a baseball-only hatred of Rice, although most of that is directed at their head coach, Wayne Graham.
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