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re: Walker hires brandon lawley

Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:25 am to
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41901 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 7:25 am to
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So explain to me how Mandeville has been so successful in the 5A playoffs. Mandeville High may be the least "diverse" public school in the state.


600 more students to pull from helps some

And there are always exceptions to the rule.
Posted by Mr Eko
Member since Jan 2011
115 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:02 am to
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600 more students to pull from helps some And there are always exceptions to the rule.


I agree with you. But what makes the exception to this rule is coaching. And that idiot i quoted earlier basically said coaching doesn't matter in high school. I was just trying to call him out for being stupid. Coaching matters more at the high school level than any other level of football.
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
3105 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:32 am to
As I said earlier Walker has talent walking around the school that the coaches in the past didn't bother to recruit. When I was at walker we had Todrick Stevenson who ran for 2000 yards plus our senior year and every game we lost was by 7 points or less except for one and we finished the season 2 and 8. Coaching lost us the other games such as the St. Amant debacle.

I have also heard the same thing as stated before about kids not academically eligible or at the first sign of discipline they quit and I have also witnessed it when I played at Walker. A great coach can win at Walker and I have stated who I think would be a great coach for Walker for many reasons. Maybe this Brandon guy will be a great coach IDK but until the current administration at Walker will let the head coach do what he wants to do and keep their hands out of it Walker will continue to be 0 and what ever.

I coach high school football myself at a 3A school and we would kill Walker and its not because of a talent gap.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 8:34 am
Posted by TedStickles
Member since Feb 2008
1458 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:44 am to
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Also, his welding program at Walker High has one several state championships.


Is this possible? Mind blown
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
3105 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:53 am to
Tedstickles

lol yes they have state championships in welding and even national championships and yes it should have been (won) but that's what spell check will do for you when you are typing very fast lol.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 9:00 am
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41901 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:39 am to
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Coaching matters more at the high school level than any other level of football


100% agree

And getting the kids to believe in your system
Posted by Tiger Vision
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
3705 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:48 am to
I never said coaching doesn't matter in high school football. What I said is that talent does matter and Walker doesn't have it. Bill Belichick couldn't consistently coach Walker to 8 win seasons.
Posted by Mr Eko
Member since Jan 2011
115 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 2:25 pm to
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I never said coaching doesn't matter in high school football.

Well you sure as hell implied it. You even took a shot at Curtis' coaching staff which is probably the best coaching staff in the state of Louisiana.

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Bill Belichick couldn't consistently coach Walker to 8 win seasons.

So i guess this statement isn't supposed say that "coaching doesn't matter" either?

You are 100% wrong but I understand why you believe what you believe. I literally hear it every day from people who casually follow high school football. They complain to me almost everyday and can't understand why a school with as much talent as Covington High consistently loses (and loses big for that matter) to schools like St. Paul's and Mandeville High. High school football is a completely different beast than any other level of football and the casual follower doesn't understand.

The most talented team in the state of Louisiana year in and year out is St. Aug and its not even close. Nobody has had more kids sign D-1 scholarships as they have but yet they haven't won a state championship in 30 something years. Why is that? The answer is because at the high school level great coaching trumps great talent every time. Every year in the playoffs St. Aug's lack of coaching gets exposed.

High school football is not about the best player on the field its about the worst player on the field. The well coached teams make the worst player on the field for their team competitive at a high level. The end result is the well coached teams have no weaknesses.

I'm not going to use Bill Belichick as an example because that is so asinine that its not even worth a response. I'm going to use Mandeville High and its head coach Guy Lecompte as an example, if he went to Walker High School he would DEFINITELY average 8 wins a year. You know why that is true? Because he did exactly that at Mandeville. Mandeville had never been to the quarterfinals in school history before he got there and now he has done it 4 times. Thats just one example. Another example is what Steve Robicheaux has done at a "talented" school like Destrehan. Robicheaux won two state championships at Destrehan then left and low and behold they went straight into the shitter. Then magically he comes back and all of a sudden they are back in the state championship game but I guess it was all because because of talent and had nothing to do with Robicheaux.

Now listen, I know absolutely nothing about this Brandon Lawley guy so I'm not knocking him. The problem with hires like this one is that you have people making the decisions for schools that believe the same things that you do. That talent wins not coaching and a school like Walker can never win because of the lack of perceived talent. From the outside looking in it looks like they settled in house. If the OC at a better program like Central was seriously interested in that job, then that was definitely a bad hire. I feel bad for the kids in situations like these.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 2:56 pm to
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from the Walker community


So you are wanting someone that will refuse to allow his players to practice on a sunday?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112312 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 2:58 pm to
Who the hell practices on Sundays?
Posted by secondandshort
Member since Jan 2014
1028 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 3:06 pm to
0-10 dude. You can put up a lot of passing yards when you're playing against the other schools second team and rush 4 times a game. They weren't even competitive in a district game last year.
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